From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:04:19 +0000 From: nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f1ed6ea-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do. 1. How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure which ethernet card I have , but the computer I have is a Dell Dimension 1100.) 2. Were can I get a good tutorial on the plan9 C compiler( I have already read: "How to use the plan9 C compiler" by Rob PIke.) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: From: Pietro Gagliardi To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-25-537912976 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:35:32 -0500 References: Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f23f2ba-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-25-537912976 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-537912958 --Apple-Mail-24-537912958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating > system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do. > > 1. How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure > which ethernet card I have , but the computer I have is a Dell > Dimension 1100.) Try % ndb/dns -r % ip/ipconfig If that doesn't work, use the device manager on another system, such as a Linux LiveCD, to find out the chip. > 2. Were can I get a good tutorial on the plan9 C compiler( I have > already read: "How to use the plan9 C compiler" by Rob PIke.) I'll put a draft of one I'm making on sources later. --Apple-Mail-24-537912958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Nov 4, 2008, at = 8:04 AM, nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com = wrote:

Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a = great operating
system, However there are somethings I do not know = how to do.

1. How can I get internet through a ethernet = cord?(I am not sure
which ethernet card I have , but the computer I = have is a Dell
Dimension = 1100.)

Try

% ndb/dns = -r

% ip/ipconfig

If that doesn't work, use the = device manager on another system, such as a Linux LiveCD, to find out = the chip.

2. Were can I = get a good tutorial on the plan9 C compiler( I have
already read: = "How to use the plan9 C compiler" by Rob = PIke.)

I'll put a draft of one I'm = making on sources later.

= --Apple-Mail-24-537912958-- --Apple-Mail-25-537912976 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQT6QACgkQuv7AVNQDs+ywoQCePdKeiTMIgFJHTv4AcHFhxGi4 Ve8An2crTE+YRAoT83BmaHaaxhdV2d2z =shwg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-25-537912976-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:24:42 +0000 From: Nolan Hamilton Message-ID: <354d4f67-3ffd-4ae8-b37c-423505753eee@b31g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f2e9a12-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Nov 4, 3:39�am, pietr...@mac.com (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote: > On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, nolan.h.hamil...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating > > system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do. > > > 1. �How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure > > which ethernet card I have , but the computer I have is a Dell > > Dimension 1100.) > > Try > % ndb/dns -r > % ip/ipconfig > If that doesn't work, use the device manager on another system, such � > as a Linux LiveCD, to find out the chip. > > > 2. �Were can I get a good tutorial on the plan9 C compiler( I have > > already read: "How to use the plan9 C compiler" by Rob PIke.) > > I'll put a draft of one I'm making on sources later. > > �PGP.sig > < 1KViewDownload Thanks alot, for the help unfortunately when I use the command ndb/ dns -r it says "cant read my ip adress". Ill try a linux livecd. Thank you very much for the C tutorial though. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:24:55 +0000 From: Nolan Hamilton Message-ID: <92143520-1f57-4964-b6bb-7564f57f087b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f3af42e-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Nov 4, 3:39�am, pietr...@mac.com (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote: > On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, nolan.h.hamil...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating > > system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do. > > > 1. �How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure > > which ethernet card I have , but the computer I have is a Dell > > Dimension 1100.) > > Try > % ndb/dns -r > % ip/ipconfig > If that doesn't work, use the device manager on another system, such � > as a Linux LiveCD, to find out the chip. > > > 2. �Were can I get a good tutorial on the plan9 C compiler( I have > > already read: "How to use the plan9 C compiler" by Rob PIke.) > > I'll put a draft of one I'm making on sources later. > > �PGP.sig > < 1KViewDownload Sorry, I forgot to plug in my ehternet cord hahah, but I used both of you commands, no error messages. So emmm I guess everything is working. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: C H Forsyth Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:38:49 +0000 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: <92143520-1f57-4964-b6bb-7564f57f087b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f486f32-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 >ut I used both of you commands, no error messages ip/ipconfig -D will print a little bit more (and i mean `a', `little' and `bit') From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:39:22 +0000 From: Nolan Hamilton Message-ID: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <92143520-1f57-4964-b6bb-7564f57f087b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f72f324-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Can somebody give me instructions on 1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the wiki page on it.) 2. How can I read newsgroups on plan9? Internet works and everything. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <6a3ae47e0811040903s3fd207c9j5ba02e6c9dd01d90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:03:47 +0000 From: "Robert Raschke" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <92143520-1f57-4964-b6bb-7564f57f087b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f78b494-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > Can somebody give me instructions on > 1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the > wiki page on it.) :-) Do you mean reading mail or setting up a mail server? For the former, the easiest is to use Mail inside of Acme. Not sure if this is the latest greatest way to do it, but this is how I've done it for the past four years and a bit. In your lib/profile you will want to start upas/fs . You can then open a mailbox on a remote IMAP server like this for example (this will use factotum to prompt for your password): echo 'open /imap/your.imap.server/your.username local.box.name' >/mail/fs/ctl And in Acme use "Mail local.box.name" to start the mail reader. > 2. How can I read newsgroups on plan9? Hmm, can't seem to get to the contrib stuff on sources just now, so here's how I do News for myself: http://www.tombob.com/plan9/ Robby From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:27:17 +0000 From: Nolan Hamilton Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f877718-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Nov 4, 7:06�am, rtrli...@googlemail.com (Robert Raschke) wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton > > wrote: > > Can somebody give me instructions on > > 1. �How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the > > wiki page on it.) > > :-) > > Do you mean reading mail or setting up a mail server? For the former, > the easiest is to use Mail inside of Acme. Not sure if this is the > latest greatest way to do it, but this is how I've done it for the > past four years and a bit. > > In your lib/profile you will want to start upas/fs . > > You can then open a mailbox on a remote IMAP server like this for > example (this will use factotum to prompt for your password): > � echo 'open /imap/your.imap.server/your.username local.box.name' >/mail/fs/ctl > > And in Acme use "Mail local.box.name" to start the mail reader. > > > 2. �How can I read newsgroups on plan9? > > Hmm, can't seem to get to the contrib stuff on sources just now, so > here's how I do News for myself:http://www.tombob.com/plan9/ > > Robby Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in comp.os.vms. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:44:14 +0100 From: hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2f927f0a-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in > comp.os.vms. > > you should not be too sure about that *g* From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <775b8d190811042357v60b354bcv17ceeaddc9c9fae3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:57:04 +0200 From: "Bruce Ellis" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3018ae22-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 in general any decent 9fan will help. it's only the jerks who get abused. there is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people. brucee On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in >> comp.os.vms. >> >> > > you should not be too sure about that *g* > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:37:10 +0000 From: Nolan Hamilton Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 30b103de-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Nov 4, 7:27�am, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > On Nov 4, 7:06�am, rtrli...@googlemail.com (Robert Raschke) wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton > > > wrote: > > > Can somebody give me instructions on > > > 1. �How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the > > > wiki page on it.) > > > :-) > > > Do you mean reading mail or setting up a mail server? For the former, > > the easiest is to use Mail inside of Acme. Not sure if this is the > > latest greatest way to do it, but this is how I've done it for the > > past four years and a bit. > > > In your lib/profile you will want to start upas/fs . > > > You can then open a mailbox on a remote IMAP server like this for > > example (this will use factotum to prompt for your password): > > � echo 'open /imap/your.imap.server/your.username local.box.name' >/mail/fs/ctl > > > And in Acme use "Mail local.box.name" to start the mail reader. > > > > 2. �How can I read newsgroups on plan9? > > > Hmm, can't seem to get to the contrib stuff on sources just now, so > > here's how I do News for myself:http://www.tombob.com/plan9/ > > > Robby > > Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in > comp.os.vms. It dosent work unfortunatley its probally something I did, can you really break each step down for me? Sorry! From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:58:33 +0000 From: Eris Discordia To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <825207B3AC2E19E57630430F@[192.168.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <775b8d190811042357v60b354bcv17ceeaddc9c9fae3@mail.gmail.com> References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <775b8d190811042357v60b354bcv17ceeaddc9c9fae3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 30e090cc-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > it's only the jerks who get abused. Yes, he's right. It's the victim's fault. --On Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:57 AM +0200 Bruce Ellis wrote: > in general any decent 9fan will help. it's only the jerks who get abused. > > there is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people. > > brucee > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in >>> comp.os.vms. >>> >>> >> >> you should not be too sure about that *g* >> >> > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <6a3ae47e0811050259j143d1237i6a09b5614b7a90d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:59:22 +0000 From: "Robert Raschke" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 30d54212-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > It dosent work unfortunatley its probally something I did, can you > really break each step down for me? > Sorry! What doesn't work? You can't start upas/fs? Writing to /mail/fs/ctl doesn't work? Or Acme Mail doesn't work? Robby From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:09:04 +0300 From: "John Waters" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5980_611011.1225886944810" References: <06f8042a-9405-40f0-9171-7916ba086533@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 30ec5b96-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_5980_611011.1225886944810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The regulars on that group spend their days either playing bingo at the community center, chasing kids off their yard with a broom, or posting to that USENET group. :) On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > > > Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in > comp.os.vms. > > ------=_Part_5980_611011.1225886944810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

The regulars on that group spend their days either playing bingo at the community center, chasing kids off their yard with a broom, or posting to that USENET group. :)

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in
comp.os.vms.

------=_Part_5980_611011.1225886944810-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:34:41 -0500 From: a@9srv.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Questions about plan9. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 310836ae-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 // It dosent work unfortunatley its probally something I did, // can you really break each step down for me? At this point, you've been given all the references you need for your stated goals. If something isn't working, you really ought to provide a more detailed account of what you did and what didn't work as expected. Just a transcript of the commands and error messages would be a good start. Anthony