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From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" <nemo@lsub.org>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:09:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b2240e821b268b486a4faa6d7d8e732@lsub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a4e6962a0903310757t232214b7nb78b2890f76a6a0f@mail.gmail.com>

o/live assumes that in many cases you may have
a mouse with just one button and some way to
issue mouse-3 clicks. (eg., touch pads).
The result was the circular menu implementation
and a different interaction language.

However, it does not consider multitouch at all.

>  From: ericvh@gmail.com
>  To: 9fans@9fans.net
>  Reply-To: 9fans@9fans.net
>  Date: Tue Mar 31 17:00:43 CET 2009
>  Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone
>
>  On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM, J.R. Mauro <jrm8005@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a device
>  >> and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix that.
>  >
>  > This is a very good point. As much as I like rio, I can't help but be
>  > aggravated by it sometimes, and it would be nice to have someone take
>  > a fresh look at interacting with it and possibly solve some of the
>  > shortcomings.
>  >
>
>  I think the key here is devices like the iPhone beg a different model
>  -- rio and ACME were developed for graphical, mouse/keyboard setups
>  (with relatively large screens I might add) -- smaller devices or
>  devices with different models (like set top boxes or game consoles)
>  really require a different set of tools/apps. I think this is one of
>  the things that was interesting about the Plan B approach -- different
>  front-ends for similar back ends. I doubt anyone wants to use the
>  iphone as a developer workstation, but it might be nice to make it an
>  additional screen for faces, or as the student points out and
>  additional user-interface to someone's work environment.
>
>  As far as fixing rio and ACME, I would urge anyone looking at that to
>  come up with a complementary solution as opposed to messing with the
>  existing model. I don't see any reason why alternative interfaces
>  can't co-exist which support keyboard-only interaction (ron's smackme
>  comes to mind as well as wmii's model) as well as multitouch on
>  laptops (actually the iphone's new cut/paste model might work for
>  multitouch trackpads -- and while not as natural as the existing
>  chording method might make ACME useable when one finds oneself without
>  a three button mouse handy). Another avenue to pursue is looking at
>  using gestures to replace chords -- it seems like pinch and expand
>  might be natural replacements for cut and paste. I don't think the
>  community or the system benefits form limiting our options (but lets
>  keep them options -- I still prefer chording when possible ;)
>
>   -eric



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-31 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-25 20:57 André Günther
2009-03-26  0:14 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26  0:24   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  0:39     ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26  0:54       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:02         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  1:07           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:11             ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  1:21               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:29                 ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-03-26  2:03                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26  2:07                     ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  2:42                       ` Anthony Sorace
2009-03-26  2:53                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26  3:09                           ` Noah Evans
2009-03-26  3:14                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  3:24                             ` Tom Lieber
2009-03-26  3:32                               ` Paul Lalonde
2009-03-26  3:31                             ` Jeff Sickel
2009-03-26  2:23                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  2:25                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  3:20                       ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-26  3:32                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26 11:59                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 12:30                             ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26 12:51                               ` Uriel
2009-03-26 13:28                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26 13:34                                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26 14:43                                   ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-03-26 16:18                                     ` Akshat Kumar
2009-03-26 16:24                                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26 13:16                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 13:27                                 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26 16:17                           ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-26  1:31                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  2:01                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  4:36                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26  2:20                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  8:33                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-03-26 18:04         ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-26 18:22           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 18:29             ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 18:39               ` Tom Lieber
2009-03-26 18:50                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 19:00                   ` Uriel
2009-03-26 19:14                   ` lucio
2009-03-26 19:27               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 19:36                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 19:56                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-29  1:14                   ` Anant Narayanan
2009-03-30  2:51                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-30  3:02                       ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-30  3:40                         ` ron minnich
2009-03-30  3:46                           ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-30 14:08                             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-03-31  4:26                               ` Uriel
2009-03-31  4:36                                 ` Jack Johnson
2009-03-31  4:57                                   ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-03-31  6:00                                     ` Uriel
2009-03-31  6:22                                       ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-03-31  6:24                                       ` André Günther
2009-03-31  6:42                                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-31 20:51                                           ` David Leimbach
2009-03-31  7:33                                         ` yy
2009-03-31  7:36                                         ` Uriel
2009-03-31  9:14                                           ` Noah Evans
2009-03-31 12:01                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-31 14:36                                         ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-31 14:57                                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-31 15:02                                             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-31 15:09                                             ` Fco. J. Ballesteros [this message]
2009-03-31 11:52                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2009-03-26 18:39             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-26 19:35               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 19:57                 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-03-26 19:54                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 21:22                 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26 21:26                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-28  1:21                   ` Uriel
2009-03-28  2:02                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  7:32 ` André Günther
2009-03-26 10:42   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26 11:59     ` hiro

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