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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 9fc4a222-12ce-11ef-803c-323c068c7b06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UOWJmNDBlOTQ0OGM4NzhhYi1NZDhmMmRhY2M3MTdlYTY1ZWFlMjdi?= =?UTF-8?B?OTllPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Md8f2dacc717ea65eae27b99e:1:EW8bKrre76WHAzmq2u49jYw1fbQdFKrOVUkTjyzyHLU On 5/15/24 09:18, Don Bailey wrote: > This thread is perhaps one of the best examples of the bizarre ecosystem = that Plan 9 has evolved (devolved?) into. While I have not always understoo= d Vic's choices, I was, in the past, aware of his /position/ at certain ent= ities... and provided him with security information I hoped was relevant to= that position at that time. He has been on the Plan 9 mailing list as long= (or longer?) than I have (pre-2002?) and has always written his emails in = the fashion he writes them currently.=C2=A0 I'm not quite sure what his position has to do with anything honestly. I am= sorry I lack some historical context. >=20 > Frankly, I don't even understand the point in attacking whether he is or = is not "an LLM". He's actually trying to be helpful. Perhaps spending less = time trolling everyone you don't understand (and inaccurately presume to be= a troll), and instead trying to understand how they purport to add value, = is a useful path forward.=C2=A0 I thought he was using a LLM because I had mentioned such in previous email= s in this thread and was not corrected. 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