From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <6cfc1941f88ae759b64b55134e81e9e1@gmx.de> To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:52:46 +0200 From: cinap_lenrek@gmx.de In-Reply-To: <20090710182555.90004598.eekee57@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-wzbazngkyzvgzresuuqozvnabq" Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1b5e814a-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-wzbazngkyzvgzresuuqozvnabq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit had no success with mplayer yet because of lacking mmx support. got ffmpeg to compile (without mmx/sse) and play on linuxemu, but it was too slow on my 1 ghz via machine. -- cinap --upas-wzbazngkyzvgzresuuqozvnabq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-bounces+cinap_lenrek=gmx.de@9fans.net> X-Flags: 0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to cinap_lenrek@gmx.de Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jul 2009 17:29:38 -0000 Received: from gouda.swtch.com (EHLO gouda.swtch.com) [67.207.142.3] by mx0.gmx.net (mx038) with SMTP; 10 Jul 2009 19:29:38 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gouda.swtch.com) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <9fans-bounces@9fans.net>) id 1MPJr1-0001bT-Jv; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:25:47 +0000 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MPJqz-0001bL-AJ for 9fans@9fans.net; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:25:45 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135F43B087F for <9fans@9fans.net>; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:25:45 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: BeLjtLIFlbH9iV9X0vTejb80X0Qda6MDI9XjQ7Q6WY2B 1247246744 Received: from vardo.eekee.is-a-geek.org (cpc3-lanc4-0-0-cust273.brig.cable.ntl.com [81.101.205.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8D59D18576 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:25:55 +0100 From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-Id: <20090710182555.90004598.eekee57@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <80c99e790907100905x223b40ddjd8c9f784264b4922@mail.gmail.com> References: <80c99e790907100905x223b40ddjd8c9f784264b4922@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS X-BeenThere: 9fans@9fans.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+cinap_lenrek=gmx.de@9fans.net X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam) X-GMX-UID: tEJhe5xQYmYSG8lwxnc3mk5KWkZTQVQz On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:05:13 +0100 Lorenzo Bolla wrote: > Hi all, > I've just installed (with few difficulties, I must admit) a fresh Plan9 on > my Dell Inspiron laptop. > I played with it and I'd really like to study it and get used to it. > Ideally, I would like to make it my "everyday OS", to do all the nice stuff > you can do with a computer (a part from work and study), like browsing the > web, watching movies and so on... > Is anyone using it for such things? > Is there, for example, a decent browser for Plan9 (I haven't found any)? > Or a music/movie player? There is no "decent" browser for Plan 9 as such by many peoples' standards. The big problem here is that the Plan 9 community by and large really appreciates sane design, and it seems to be quite impossible to write a browser conforming to w3c standards without putting a lot of very very crazy code in it. *Howevah* there is Linuxemu. You can run Firefox under Linuxemu in Plan 9. You may be able to run mplayer or xine-whatever that way too, but some of Plan 9's display drivers may be too slow, you'd have to try it and see. Linuxemu is in rsc's contrib... 9fs sources && cd /n/sources/contrib/rsc/linuxemu ... then I guess cat README & go from there. I couldn't tell you how to install it since I've never done it. What works for me is rather the other way around. I run Linux (64bit, for a machine with 4GB of RAM), and run Plan 9 in Qemu. It works nicely, although it was a bit of hassle setting up. Some people do this & use the plumber to communicate with the plan9port plumber running on the Linux side, it all sounds a lot of fun but I haven't got that far yet. :) Have fun with it, anyhow. :) -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving. --upas-wzbazngkyzvgzresuuqozvnabq--