* [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook @ 2009-03-19 21:53 ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-19 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html It's an interesting site for a number of reasons ... ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-19 21:53 [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook ron minnich @ 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 2:49 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort john 2009-03-20 4:20 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) lucio 2009-03-23 10:48 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 Abhishek Kulkarni 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Anthony Sorace @ 2009-03-19 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS laptop to play with. my first question was whether the "missing" parts of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the list of missing instructions. any idea? getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace @ 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:43 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-19 23:56 ` Iruata Souza 2009-03-20 2:49 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort john 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-19 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace <anothy@gmail.com> wrote: > i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS > laptop to play with. my first question was whether the "missing" parts > of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently > generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the > list of missing instructions. any idea? > > getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too. so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however). ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-19 23:43 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 14:23 ` ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:56 ` Iruata Souza 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-19 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my > memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There > is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel > and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of > the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could > probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however). vx32 relies on x86 segment registers. - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-19 23:43 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-20 14:23 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: >> so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my >> memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There >> is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel >> and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of >> the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could >> probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however). > > vx32 relies on x86 segment registers. Let me say it differently. The way in which the plan 9 kernel code was changed to be gcc-compilable as part of the vx32 kernel might provide some hints as to how to change a whole plan 9 kernel. The point being, it is not impossible to get a gcc-compilable plan 9 kernel. We used to talk about this at LANL all the time: we called it the "evil project". (This idea predates vx32 but it was not my idea; I will let the evil person behind the evil project identify himself). This change would remove "have to port&test&validate&fix&validate&... the C compiler first" as a barrier to entry on new CPUs. see src/vx32 in the vx32 tree. ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 14:23 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 15:29 ` ron minnich ` (4 more replies) 0 siblings, 5 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-20 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Let me say it differently. The way in which the plan 9 kernel code was > changed to be gcc-compilable as part of the vx32 kernel might provide > some hints as to how to change a whole plan 9 kernel. The point being, > it is not impossible to get a gcc-compilable plan 9 kernel. We used to > talk about this at LANL all the time: we called it the "evil project". > (This idea predates vx32 but it was not my idea; I will let the evil > person behind the evil project identify himself). This change would > remove "have to port&test&validate&fix&validate&... the C compiler > first" as a barrier to entry on new CPUs. > > see src/vx32 in the vx32 tree. i'm really missing something. what executables does this kernel run? how are they generated? wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) for bootstrapping using vc? - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-20 15:29 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 15:31 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort lucio ` (3 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:15 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > i'm really missing something. what executables does this > kernel run? how are they generated? one of us is. I'll let it drop here because it might be me. ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 15:29 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 15:31 ` lucio 2009-03-20 16:02 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 15:35 ` lucio ` (2 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-03-20 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode > (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) > for bootstrapping using vc? Please don't go there! I have just ordered (and paid for) one of those gadgets and foremost in my mind was the hope that I would not have to deal with a BIOS that needed emulation to be executed. That said, the claim is that it will be here in five days, but this is Africa so I'll give it two weeks. After that, anyone who wants to hold my hand is welcome. The timezone here is +0200 and my daytime cycle (adjustable, of course) is 05:30 to 22:30, approximately. ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 15:31 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort lucio @ 2009-03-20 16:02 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 17:57 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-20 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: lucio, 9fans On Fri Mar 20 11:34:28 EDT 2009, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode > > (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) > > for bootstrapping using vc? > > Please don't go there! I have just ordered (and paid for) one of > those gadgets and foremost in my mind was the hope that I would not > have to deal with a BIOS that needed emulation to be executed. what leads you to believe that you need to call their open bios, it doesn't deal with 32-bit mode, it can't be modified to deal with 32-bit mode and mode switching is impracticable? (or whatever the correct order is.) - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 16:02 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-20 17:57 ` Charles Forsyth 2009-03-21 0:39 ` Uriel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2009-03-20 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans for the RISC processors, it should be relatively straightforward to do the 64-bit variant of ?[acl], given an existing 32-bit one, and i'd be surprised if the applications also didn't work immediately since they run in 64-bit mode on amd64. (anyway, they required relatively little work, and the compiler can help, because only long long and pointers are 64-bit, unlike gcc.) the kernel work is another matter; the essential 64-bit changes have been made, but you still need to adapt or change the 32-bit MIPS kernel implementation to suit, and write drivers. what does the device use for graphics? i'm sure i've booted a 32-bit MIPS kernel on a potentially 64-bit MIPS processor. set a bit or two and it works; i don't think there was much more than that. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 17:57 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2009-03-21 0:39 ` Uriel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Uriel @ 2009-03-21 0:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> wrote: > the kernel work is another matter; the essential 64-bit changes have been made, But not released. Maybe the GSoC students can work telepathically on it, that is a skill that will come handy in their future Plan 9 contributions. uriel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 15:29 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 15:31 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort lucio @ 2009-03-20 15:35 ` lucio 2009-03-20 17:11 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook Russ Cox 2009-03-20 18:28 ` Iruata Souza 4 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-03-20 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > i'm really missing something. what executables does this > kernel run? how are they generated? Executing ELFs is not the most difficult thing on earth, LinuxEmu does it in its sleep. Moving the functionality into the kernel would be trivial for anyone who does not insist in understanding the full ELF specifications before doing it. The details on where I'm at with this particular effort are available off list for the asking. I really don't mind having a shoulder to cry on :-) ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2009-03-20 15:35 ` lucio @ 2009-03-20 17:11 ` Russ Cox 2009-03-20 23:16 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 18:28 ` Iruata Souza 4 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2009-03-20 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs ron is suggesting is that with minimal effort the plan 9 kernel could be made to compile using gcc instead of the standard plan 9 compilers. he's right. erik's point is that once you have a kernel up, you still need to give it executables to run. this either requires porting the standard compilers to the target machine or somehow making the entire source tree compile under gcc, which would require significantly more effort than the kernel. he's also right. it all depends on what you want from plan 9. for me, the fleet plan 9 compilers save me so much time and make me so much more productive compared to waiting on gcc that on balance i'd rather spend the time to port the compiler than switch to gcc. ron is already using gcc to generate binaries to run on plan 9, though, and his use of plan 9 depends much more heavily on the "plays well with networks" aspect than it does on the fast compilation. and maybe there's no one to write the new compiler. there, using gcc might make sense. russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 17:11 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook Russ Cox @ 2009-03-20 23:16 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 23:52 ` James Tomaschke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Is a mips-64 port a reasonable GSOC project? The person doing it could not come in cold, but there is a starting point it seems. In spite of my earlier suggestion, I have to agree with Russ. Gcc and its utils are a daily headache for me, I'd rather just get a mips-64 compiler port first. ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 23:16 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 23:52 ` James Tomaschke 2009-03-20 23:56 ` ron minnich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: James Tomaschke @ 2009-03-20 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I would suggest the compiler as well, students are probably more familiar with compiler concepts and it will probably be easier to mentor. In the future, the porting work can be distributed over the community anyways. ron minnich wrote: > Is a mips-64 port a reasonable GSOC project? The person doing it could > not come in cold, but there is a starting point it seems. > > In spite of my earlier suggestion, I have to agree with Russ. Gcc and > its utils are a daily headache for me, I'd rather just get a mips-64 > compiler port first. > > ron > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 23:52 ` James Tomaschke @ 2009-03-20 23:56 ` ron minnich 2009-03-21 0:06 ` Devon H. O'Dell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, James Tomaschke <james@orcasystems.com> wrote: > I would suggest the compiler as well, students are probably more familiar > with compiler concepts and it will probably be easier to mentor. In the > future, the porting work can be distributed over the community anyways. Sorry, I was not clear: I only meant a mips-64 compiler port. rno ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 23:56 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-21 0:06 ` Devon H. O'Dell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Devon H. O'Dell @ 2009-03-21 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 2009/3/20 ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, James Tomaschke <james@orcasystems.com> wrote: >> I would suggest the compiler as well, students are probably more familiar >> with compiler concepts and it will probably be easier to mentor. In the >> future, the porting work can be distributed over the community anyways. > > Sorry, I was not clear: I only meant a mips-64 compiler port. I think so. Who wants to mentor? I'd be up for getting one of these puppies if anybody wants to do it (though they are rather expensive considering no US distributor... harrumph) and mentoring to some degree, but I'm more likely to want to help out with (and probably a better contact for) 9vx work than that. --dho ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 2009-03-20 17:11 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook Russ Cox @ 2009-03-20 18:28 ` Iruata Souza 4 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Iruata Souza @ 2009-03-20 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode > (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) > for bootstrapping using vc? that's how i started playing. iru ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:43 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-03-19 23:56 ` Iruata Souza 2009-03-20 2:39 ` [9fans] MIPS-64 Tim Wiess 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Iruata Souza @ 2009-03-19 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port. the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace <anothy@gmail.com> wrote: >> i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS >> laptop to play with. my first question was whether the "missing" parts >> of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently >> generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the >> list of missing instructions. any idea? >> >> getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too. > > so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my > memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There > is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel > and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of > the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could > probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however). > > ron > > -- iru ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] MIPS-64 2009-03-19 23:56 ` Iruata Souza @ 2009-03-20 2:39 ` Tim Wiess 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Tim Wiess @ 2009-03-20 2:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Yes I started on working the toolchain a couple years ago, based on some earlier work done at the labs. Development stalled due to other work at the time and I never got back to it. But it's on sources (tim/4acl.tgz) if anybody wants to pick it up. I'm happy to provide any help. tim > tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the > compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port. > > the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace <anothy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS >>> laptop to play with. my first question was whether the "missing" parts >>> of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently >>> generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the >>> list of missing instructions. any idea? >>> >>> getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too. >> >> so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my >> memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There >> is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel >> and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of >> the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could >> probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however). >> >> ron >> >> > > > > -- > iru ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich @ 2009-03-20 2:49 ` john 2009-03-20 3:58 ` Jack Johnson 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jason Gurtz 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: john @ 2009-03-20 2:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS > laptop to play with. my first question was whether the "missing" parts > of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently > generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the > list of missing instructions. any idea? > > getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too. I found this a couple months ago and showed it to Ron, tried to get a quote or some info on buying them but nobody even replied to my email. Can you even get them in China? Are they even being produced? John ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 2:49 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort john @ 2009-03-20 3:58 ` Jack Johnson 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jack Johnson 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jason Gurtz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jack Johnson @ 2009-03-20 3:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, <john@csplan9.rit.edu> wrote: > I found this a couple months ago and showed it to Ron, tried to get a > quote or some info on buying them but nobody even replied to my email. > Can you even get them in China? Are they even being produced? There's some reseller in the U.K., I think. Let me see if I can dig it up. -Jack ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 3:58 ` Jack Johnson @ 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jack Johnson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jack Johnson @ 2009-03-20 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jack Johnson <knapjack@gmail.com> wrote: > There's some reseller in the U.K., I think. Let me see if I can dig it up. Whoops, wrong country: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories/%22Lemote%20product%22 -Jack ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort 2009-03-20 2:49 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort john 2009-03-20 3:58 ` Jack Johnson @ 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jason Gurtz 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jason Gurtz @ 2009-03-20 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 3/19/2009 22:49, john@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: > Can you even get them in China? Are they even being produced? Straight from the Dutch... <http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories> ~Jason ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) 2009-03-19 21:53 [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace @ 2009-03-20 4:20 ` lucio 2009-03-23 10:48 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 Abhishek Kulkarni 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-03-20 4:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html > > It's an interesting site for a number of reasons ... Yes, it is. How hard will it be to do business with them? I have a feeling we'd want a single point of contact to save a lot of heartache. ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 2009-03-19 21:53 [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-03-20 4:20 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) lucio @ 2009-03-23 10:48 ` Abhishek Kulkarni 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Abhishek Kulkarni @ 2009-03-23 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Another interesting netbook (also based on LongSoon) to watch out for would be the Gdium Liberty: http://www.gdium.com/en/product/liberty1000 I am trying to figure out how to get one in the US. On Mar 19, 6:00�pm, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: > http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html > > It's an interesting site for a number of reasons ... > > ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2009-03-23 10:48 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 26+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2009-03-19 21:53 [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:14 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-03-19 23:24 ` ron minnich 2009-03-19 23:43 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 14:23 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 15:15 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 15:29 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 15:31 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort lucio 2009-03-20 16:02 ` erik quanstrom 2009-03-20 17:57 ` Charles Forsyth 2009-03-21 0:39 ` Uriel 2009-03-20 15:35 ` lucio 2009-03-20 17:11 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook Russ Cox 2009-03-20 23:16 ` ron minnich 2009-03-20 23:52 ` James Tomaschke 2009-03-20 23:56 ` ron minnich 2009-03-21 0:06 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2009-03-20 18:28 ` Iruata Souza 2009-03-19 23:56 ` Iruata Souza 2009-03-20 2:39 ` [9fans] MIPS-64 Tim Wiess 2009-03-20 2:49 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort john 2009-03-20 3:58 ` Jack Johnson 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jack Johnson 2009-03-20 4:06 ` Jason Gurtz 2009-03-20 4:20 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) lucio 2009-03-23 10:48 ` [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 Abhishek Kulkarni
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