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From: geoff@collyer.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] UN to fund linux for the 3rd world
Date: Thu,  2 Sep 2004 15:06:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <709fd0e529487debe39ba03cc7fddd2b@collyer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409020940.i829e219008666@skeeve.com>

Back in the archives I explained why my preference is Plan 9 >> *BSD >
Linux >>> Windows.  With respect to BSDs and Linux, I find the BSD
kernels to be smaller and of higher quality.  An acquaintance observes
that Linux seems to attract application developers and the BSDs seem
to attrack kernel hackers, which may explain some of the difference.

Since the BSDs have increasingly good Linux emulation, it's hard to
see why one would run Linux (as opposed to swiping Linux applications
from a distribution) rather than a BSD.

Further, the BSDs maintain their systems as integrated systems, with
optional ports, as opposed to most Linux distributions (debian being
an exception but RedHat being guilty) that ship a collection of
modules with tight version-number dependencies: a kernel, user-mode
programs, some documentation, and their best wishes.  When you want to
add an application not in the distribution, you run into
version-number-dependency hell, since the world has already moved on
since the distribution was frozen, and the old versions of various
libraries you need have been expunged from the internet.  The BSD port
machinery at least automates the dependency resolution and the
maintainers seem to keep old versions around, so they can be found
when needed.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-02 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-02  9:40 Aharon Robbins
2004-09-02  9:44 ` Dick Davies
2004-09-02 10:11 ` lucio
2004-09-02 10:52   ` George Michaelson
2004-09-02 11:21     ` lucio
2004-09-02 18:32       ` Jack Johnson
2004-09-02 22:58         ` Adrian Tritschler
2004-09-02 15:11 ` Sam
2004-09-02 19:51   ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-02 22:06 ` geoff [this message]
2004-09-03  2:33 ` Dan Cross
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409031316170.22793-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>
2004-09-03 19:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-09-03 21:11   ` dvd
2004-09-03 20:48 ` dvd
2004-09-03 20:52   ` ron minnich
2004-09-03 21:15     ` dvd
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-02 10:37 Aharon Robbins
2004-09-02 11:10 ` lucio
2004-09-02 18:54   ` dvd
2004-09-02 19:20     ` Boris Maryshev
2004-09-02 21:40     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-09-02 21:55       ` Boris Maryshev
2004-09-03  5:20       ` dvd
2004-09-03  6:22         ` lucio
2004-09-03  7:49         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-09-03 17:48           ` Jack Johnson
2004-09-03 17:52             ` ron minnich
2004-09-03 18:22               ` dvd
2004-09-01 14:48 boyd, rounin
2004-09-01 17:57 ` Jack Johnson
2004-09-01 17:59   ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-01 20:39     ` Tim Newsham
2004-09-01 21:16       ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-01 21:45         ` C H Forsyth
2004-09-02  3:24           ` Dan Cross
2004-09-02  3:31             ` George Michaelson
2004-09-02  4:24               ` Dan Cross
2004-09-02  5:15                 ` Jeff Sickel
2004-09-02  5:38                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-09-02  6:24                     ` Zigor Salvador
2004-09-03  2:10                   ` Dan Cross
2004-09-02 19:27                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-02 20:38                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-09-02 22:44                     ` Adrian Tritschler
2004-09-03  3:00                   ` Dan Cross
2004-09-03  3:01                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-02  5:03               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-09-02  5:13                 ` George Michaelson
2004-09-02  9:10             ` Dick Davies
2004-09-03  2:13               ` Dan Cross
2004-09-03  2:38                 ` George Michaelson
2004-09-05  0:30                 ` Dick Davies
2004-09-05  0:31                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-05  1:11                   ` Jack Johnson
2004-09-05  2:50                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-09-02 14:26             ` ron minnich
2004-09-02 21:48               ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-09-02 22:09                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-09-03  0:21                   ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-09-03  0:40                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-09-03  4:39                   ` Jack Johnson
2004-09-03  2:53               ` Dan Cross

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