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From: Eris Discordia <eris.discordia@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:34:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72580F731A5D6848D2F4FF44@computer> (raw)

> I don't get this, ™ is the unicode character 2122, not ASCII. I agree
> it could be  generated on a MS-DOS pretty much any byte sequence could
> be, but I doubt even DOS 6.22 had unicode support, so you would have to
> translate it to a code page reprisentation and load the correct fonts.

You're right. It's U+2122. Nonetheless, it's also extended ASCII 153, and 
many DOS programs easily used that to display a ™. I guess that was the 
"default" code page.

MS-DOS never had Unicode support. Neither did any Windows version up to 
3.1, NT 3.5, and 95. NT 4 introduced it into the Microsoft sphere in 1996. 
In 5-6 years--from 1996 to 2001--Windows surpassed Plan 9 in Unicode 
handling, in all practical aspects.

W3C HTML 4.x (and most of previous versions, I guess) and XHTML 1.1 also 
support it as &#153, so it's pretty "standard." You can validate any 
otherwise valid XHTML document containing it against

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd,

and get a pass.

--On Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:10 AM +0100 Steve Simon 
<steve@quintile.net> wrote:

>> Steve Simon's trademark character, I presume, was generated by
>> [Alt]+0153--you call [Alt] an "Option" key, right?
>
> nope, Alt,T,M
>
>> Well below 255, it's
>> just extended/8-bit ASCII. Not right-to-left, not even out of ISO 8859.
>> You  could generate that character even on MS-DOS.
>
> I don't get this, ™ is the unicode character 2122, not ASCII. I agree
> it could be  generated on a MS-DOS pretty much any byte sequence could
> be, but I doubt even DOS 6.22 had unicode support, so you would have to
> translate it to a code page reprisentation and load the correct fonts.
>
> -Steve
>







             reply	other threads:[~2008-08-20  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-20  9:34 Eris Discordia [this message]
2008-08-20 11:56 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-08-20 12:25   ` Eris Discordia
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2008-08-24 17:13 Eris Discordia
2008-08-25  3:57 ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-08-24 16:52 Eris Discordia
2008-08-24  8:20 erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 17:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 20:39 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 22:11   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-22  2:58     ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-22  6:13     ` Andrew Simmons
2008-08-22  9:41       ` hiro
2008-08-21 17:20 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 16:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:11 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 18:29   ` hiro
2008-08-20 23:49 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 21:46 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 22:41 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 23:15 ` Geoffrey Avila
2008-08-21  7:42 ` Uriel
2008-08-21 10:58   ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 13:25     ` john
2008-08-21 13:31     ` David Leimbach
2008-08-21 16:59   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:14     ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 10:36 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 13:01 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 13:22 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 12:56 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 18:08 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 18:58   ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 19:47     ` sqweek
2008-08-20 12:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:44 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:03 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:33 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:29 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:04 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  1:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  2:13 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  8:08   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  5:02 ` sqweek
2008-08-20  9:15   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:44     ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20  9:53     ` sqweek
2008-08-20 10:12     ` matt
2008-08-20 12:27       ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 16:23     ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  8:10 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20  0:30 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:34 ` geoff
2008-08-20  3:43   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  3:48     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:42   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:10 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:29 ` a
2008-08-20  8:01 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:51 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:30 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  1:31 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  1:43   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:00     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  7:03       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  7:36         ` bb
2008-08-21  0:03     ` Dan Cross
2008-08-24  7:27 ` John Waters
2008-08-24 18:14   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-25  5:43     ` John Waters
2008-08-19 22:00 Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-19 23:14   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:12   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20  3:17     ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-20  8:31     ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:14 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-08-19 22:26   ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:27   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:36     ` Jonathan Cast
2008-08-20  0:42       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:08     ` a
2008-08-20  8:06       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:26     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20  3:31       ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:41       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:31   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:46     ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-20  0:31       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:03     ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20  0:34       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:58         ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-19 22:34 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20  3:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-19 15:52 Wendell xe
2008-08-19 16:01 ` ron minnich
2008-08-19 16:11 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-19 21:23   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-08-19 16:31 ` Robert Raschke
2008-08-19 21:00   ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 17:50 ` Ramon de Vera
2008-08-19 17:58 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-22 12:37   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 18:26     ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 20:17       ` yy
2008-10-24 17:51     ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 18:17       ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-05 16:19       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-08-19 20:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 21:24   ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  0:28     ` David Leimbach
2008-08-20  3:54 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  3:56   ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:48   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:21     ` matt

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