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From: a@9srv.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] telnet
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:10:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7436bb91b36cca81f0b3d9b63433d2c4@9srv.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa14cd69973674f5e8c8ff57044932bf@terzarima.net>

i also like IL in theory (and much prefer it to tcp, certainly).
but it's increasingly difficult to use. maintaining the code is
the smallest part of this issue. most nat boxes will choke
outright or drop the packets on the floor (actually, will any 
pass IL?), and many ISPs won't deal well with IL, either. you
just don't get real, unfiltered IP any more (at least reliably).

it's also frustrating that IL never got outside Plan 9 and
Inferno (and one now-defunct BSD project). it makes the
cost/benefit ratio for working to get IL passed much less
enticing if i can't, say, drawterm using it.

of course, you could s/IL/9P/g in that last paragraph without
affecting the truth value of the statement.
ア


  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-23 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-23  3:44 boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  3:50 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  4:01 ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23  4:04   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  4:57     ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23  5:09       ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  5:33         ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23  5:39           ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-27  6:53           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23  8:06         ` Richard Miller
2004-04-23  8:12           ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  8:38             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23  8:30           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23  8:35             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  8:43               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-23  9:24             ` a
2004-04-23 10:04               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23 10:10                 ` a [this message]
2004-04-23 12:38                 ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-23 12:51                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23 17:13                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  8:38           ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-23  8:39           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-23  8:42             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23  8:44               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-23  8:48                 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23  8:55                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  9:48                     ` Richard Miller
2004-04-23  9:56                       ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-24 22:41                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-25  3:35                           ` Russ Cox
2004-04-25 19:48                             ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-25 21:44                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-26 18:38                           ` rog
2004-04-23 19:15                       ` rog
2004-04-23 19:37                         ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23 22:33                         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-23 14:34                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-23 16:33                   ` 9nut
2004-04-23 17:37                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23 17:26                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  8:51               ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  8:58                 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23  9:03                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  9:08                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-23 11:23                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23 12:19                       ` C H Forsyth
2004-04-23 12:17                         ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23 12:34                     ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-23 14:38               ` ron minnich
2004-04-23 14:42                 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23 14:47                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-23  8:54           ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-23  9:03             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23 12:25           ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-23 16:02             ` 9nut
2004-04-27  6:52         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23  6:53           ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-23  4:07   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-27 12:52 Dan Cross

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