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identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="ori@eigenstate.org"; helo=mimir.eigenstate.org; client-ip=206.124.132.107 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org (mimir.eigenstate.org [206.124.132.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <9fans@9fans.net>; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ori@eigenstate.org) Received: from abbatoir.fios-router.home (pool-162-83-132-245.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [162.83.132.245]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id b821935e (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO); Thu, 30 Apr 2020 20:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <746C6382EF5CDEB110435A913BBA7093@eigenstate.org> To: ori@eigenstate.org, 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] libdate Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 20:15:20 -0700 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: <33A149D4B4CA70B554AF0BDCB406D856@eigenstate.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 014a9a2a-8b5a-11ea-b1fd-8b25d5c05155 >> As a result, if we have a timestamp like this: >> >> Jan 1 2013, 7:00 PM EST >> >> will not be able to deal with the timezone component. > > And now that I've started poking at converting code like > seconds(1), it looks like I'm going to need to solve it. > I'm thinking that I want to add /adm/timezone/abbrev, > which would look like: > > EST US_Eastern > PST US_Pacific > AEST Australia_Tasmania > > Obviously, this is a lossy mapping: There are multiple > named timezones that map to one abbreviation, and I think > that's fine. Hm. And looking again at the relevant standards, rfc5322 only allows a short list of US timezone names, and rfc8601 doesn't allow any. Perhaps the appropriate solution is to hard code the American timezones, and reject all other abbreviations, as in rfc5322. I don't like the lack of generality, but it's an option.