From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <13426df10612121401s54d5b817p1f0084006cda34f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <818c01eca2880742b4a56e87bc863a99@terzarima.net> <775b8d190612120141g743ddbe2h667cf59d1864b3cd@mail.gmail.com> <13426df10612120655t3016de18oc79feaf62860ee8f@mail.gmail.com> <13426df10612121401s54d5b817p1f0084006cda34f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <762F6304-7D8B-4BA9-B78F-32E286A6D433@lanl.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Latchesar Ionkov Subject: Re: Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: [9fans] extending xen to allow Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:19:42 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: f3012386-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This may solve the no-firefox-and-mplayer-for-plan9 problem, but I don't see how it solves the no-plan9-drivers-for-my-laptop one. Lucho On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:01 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On 12/12/06, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > >> It'd be sweet to have something I could power off of USB 2.0 or >> battery, with a hard drive and wireless (and maybe a serial port for >> jmk). > > yeah, this was one of the ideas that came up before we started on Xen > again, but Aki and Andrey and Lucho beat me up on this idea. It came > down to the EC on one side, and me on the other, and that ended it. > > I suggested running linux on a little 1-5W board, and using it to run > the linux apps, using a root mount from Plan 9. So Linux is this dumb > little headless box you only turn on when you want, and otherwise you > tell it to go away by yanking its power cord, verily. > > They thought the idea, uh, lacked merit. (I think they said it sucked, > but am not sure). > > I think one reason the idea may really suck is that Firefox (the "thin > client") requires a 200 MB footprint, which translates to gobs of > Watts. Figures. Web 2.0! > > [[BTW, anybody but me enjoying the idea of taking an opteron out of > socket and replacing with ... an ... XML ... accelerator?]] > > But I still like the 'stupid little linux CPU' idea. I want a backpack > full of little computers that spin up on demand. And don't weigh much. > and take no power. And have no moving parts. And generate no heat. And > use a fusion reactor for power. And, to reduce weight, have > antigravity pods. I guess I'll go visit Area 52 this weekend (Area 51 > is always behind schedule and over budget). > > ron