From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <764f39c8ac8fb80b4efa727ca3066158@gmx.de> To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:37:28 +0100 From: cinap_lenrek@gmx.de In-Reply-To: <7aee91501001230115q5285b2ebyd2df99db84f6855d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-qacxjyfzxlqtzyubgqondszoux" Subject: Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c4805bfe-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-qacxjyfzxlqtzyubgqondszoux Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit why not just hack rio and see how well it works out? put the patch somewhere for others to try. hacked a new piemenu patch that allows sub menus (have put the hidden windows in a sub menu so that the positions of the items in the pie doesnt change depending on the hidden windows) and compacter layout algo. so just do it... i would prefer when the arrow keys start a new instance of games/catclock btw. mutch more convinient :) for scrolling you can use the mouse... this is mutch more consitant.... keyboard should be for text and catclocks! -- cinap --upas-qacxjyfzxlqtzyubgqondszoux Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-bounces+cinap_lenrek=gmx.de@9fans.net> X-Flags: 0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to cinap_lenrek@gmx.de Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2010 09:20:19 -0000 Received: from gouda.swtch.com (EHLO gouda.swtch.com) [67.207.142.3] by mx0.gmx.net (mx110) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2010 10:20:19 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gouda.swtch.com) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <9fans-bounces@9fans.net>) id 1NYc5k-0005bs-PQ; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:15:40 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.217.215]) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NYc5j-0005bn-68 for 9fans@9fans.net; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:15:39 +0000 Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so2334207gxk.12 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:15:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=VjSc/GPgpa6Jl7Mjo6gYT21aLJicNPjShkSbZTPmpmw=; b=J6+q2bQW1XcJiRpoK2rSsqQd1mCHBP4d02/l1Zsr6eKSI3aNN/s3RfBw8K/L2Dj8oe ndtQFOOpQxjJaFw0bKXcEeEyNcPwANk6k2PhanoS8pYTX9cO1brvo0OVrDSduIVCJS/I Fcpdttb2vwRrxUMXuqMyklr8wDf1eacdP2anQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ROV8QM0I5oWPI0u6sRFovHV1MHcBM2sC9VX4R2Tl2gJfM6xB8ZubVOQxEFMB6pWa5B hTrj+umVpacpGf3Qh4KgIK/9S5xH+ofDbJbtxzh8aGEEY2+6Q61fbmai3wVgqsbgCKFO ih5WFBgfeJhcrXRytQPGRrUUfNmeGPX3xV+K4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.18.19 with SMTP id v19mr5505581ybi.66.1264238133290; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:15:33 -0800 (PST) From: Yi DAI Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:15:13 +0800 Message-ID: <7aee91501001230115q5285b2ebyd2df99db84f6855d@mail.gmail.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf19aad8aa45047dd16070 Subject: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows? X-BeenThere: 9fans@9fans.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+cinap_lenrek=gmx.de@9fans.net X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p5mOUCHqrP9iI7at+Ps8xb7p7yYJU0/4UfL4m5FatgEwKlx90KKTY5OoxHBC O8Rx1Zr+4O5PGNg1xX1vrW1y3RZPUku9WqBTjBvG6HlPLQVZZLimiELJT407JfJWR9RGq3LIVQKp GbFkUq3nCUDfPJ5V1; X-GMX-UID: MtsyBvskbHIyOY1/mjQ0G0AqJihyalDO --000e0cdf19aad8aa45047dd16070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I am new to Plan9. This request sounds quite simple/naive. Don't think that I dislike the Plan9 ways. I enjoy it a lot. But it doesn't mean that it needs no improvement/fix, right? OK, here is my suggestion. We shall fix the use of Up/Dn arrows, I mean, instead of using it to go one page up/dn, use it to move the cursor up/dn one line. Here are two reasons for this: 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. 2. We already have PageUp/PageDown keys which do the task of paging up/dn, and symmetrically, Home/End to move to the first and last page. EOT -- DAY --000e0cdf19aad8aa45047dd16070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,


I am new to Plan9. This request sound= s quite simple/naive. Don't think that I dislike the Plan9 ways. I enjo= y it a lot. But it doesn't mean that it needs no improvement/fix, right= ?

OK, here is my suggestion. We shall fix the use of Up/D= n arrows, I mean, instead of using it to go one page up/dn, use it to move = the cursor up/dn one line. Here are two reasons for this:

1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then us= e Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable.=
2. We already have PageUp/PageDown keys which do the task of pag= ing up/dn, and symmetrically, Home/End to move to the first and last page.<= /div>


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