* Re: [9fans] Pixar and Jell-O
@ 2005-04-15 16:37 Jean Mehat
2005-04-18 7:11 ` Bruce Ellis
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From: Jean Mehat @ 2005-04-15 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans, russcox
> A Slashdot post mentioned a hand-written fake paper
> titled "Ray Tracing in the Absence of Light".
As I remember, the authors where referees for a conference, but did not
receive any paper to refer. As an experiment, the next year, they submitted
three papers to this conference (about image synthesis) ; the first one
suggested to add foot mark on the wall, with a correlation between the size
and the height of the mark ; the second one was about ray tracing in the
absence of light; the third one was a copy of the call for paper. The three
papers were accepted.
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* Re: [9fans] Pixar and Jell-O
2005-04-15 16:37 [9fans] Pixar and Jell-O Jean Mehat
@ 2005-04-18 7:11 ` Bruce Ellis
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From: Bruce Ellis @ 2005-04-18 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
It took months for Shaney to get accused of being a program.
He could of actually spat out someone's complete article
(there is no secret about how dumb but effective the program was),
but only if god rolled the right dice.
So who is the most gullible audience?
net.singles+net.religion
or conference shysters?
brucee
On 4/16/05, Jean Mehat <jm@ai.univ-paris8.fr> wrote:
> > A Slashdot post mentioned a hand-written fake paper
> > titled "Ray Tracing in the Absence of Light".
>
> As I remember, the authors where referees for a conference, but did not
> receive any paper to refer. As an experiment, the next year, they submitted
> three papers to this conference (about image synthesis) ; the first one
> suggested to add foot mark on the wall, with a correlation between the size
> and the height of the mark ; the second one was about ray tracing in the
> absence of light; the third one was a copy of the call for paper. The three
> papers were accepted.
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* [9fans] could it write code too?
@ 2005-04-14 23:27 Ronald G. Minnich
2005-04-15 0:55 ` Kenji Okamoto
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From: Ronald G. Minnich @ 2005-04-14 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/scigen/
good if you're hunting tenure.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] could it write code too?
2005-04-14 23:27 [9fans] could it write code too? Ronald G. Minnich
@ 2005-04-15 0:55 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-04-15 1:20 ` Russ Cox
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From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2005-04-15 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/scigen/
I have problem in English, so I'd like to make confirm it.
IS IT A JOKE? ☺
Here, we have some such money service to translate Japanese
to English, I mean science paper! It seems there is some market
place for such needs which I can't believe.
How the original author can make it confirm that the translation is
comfortable or getting a good level of translation! Unfortunately,
it's not a joke...
Kenji
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* Re: [9fans] could it write code too?
2005-04-15 0:55 ` Kenji Okamoto
@ 2005-04-15 1:20 ` Russ Cox
2005-04-15 1:45 ` Andy Newman
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From: Russ Cox @ 2005-04-15 1:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> > http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/scigen/
>
> I have problem in English, so I'd like to make confirm it.
> IS IT A JOKE? ☺
It's not a joke. WMSCI is a money-making conference that
spams academics non-stop begging for submissions.
After seeing David Mazieres's submission
(http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/~dm/remove.pdf),
the students involved (some of my officemates)
spent about a week, off and on, building a random grammar
for generating research papers and submitted two
randomly-generated papers. One got in, one did not.
It may not be immediately obvious to a non-native
speaker, but the papers are just gibberish. They don't
make sense from one sentence to the next. Even the most
cursory reading of a paragraph or two should have been
enough to figure out that the papers were fakes. And yet
one still got in.
The hope is that enough egg will end up on WMSCI's face
that they'll stop spamming us. Then again, I doubt it.
There was an interesting post on Slashdot from someone
who said that he had first heard of iiisci (the parent organization)
when he saw a phishing email that used them as a link, and
when he emailed them to warn them that they were being used
like that (thinking their site had been taken over by hackers),
he started getting the conference spams.
Russ
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