From: Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil woe
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:48:24 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190512061548y7907c599m396535d8f0f7a487@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee9e417a0512061541v5a2a036dud3e32abc7363e74c@mail.gmail.com>
so it should be made clear that fossil is not appropriate for
large files or file system traffic. if i wish to create a 5G file
and fossil is 10G can i? well it depends on what has happened
since the last snap.
brucee
On 12/7/05, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
> > of course. or don't call it a cache but "something that may
> > fill up and screw you over". the machine was far too hosed
> > to connect to fscons and in any case telling a user "if you
> > do too much stuff you will have to call me to fix fossil" is
> > not aacceptable.
>
> I'm not claiming, under any circumstances, that fossil
> becoming unusable is acceptable. However, the solution
> is not as simple as "just write the blocks to venti".
> First, writing blocks to venti requires some knowledge
> of the rest of the file server state, and you can't always
> write any block to venti. Second, some people don't even
> use venti and they can fill their fossils too.
>
> There are plenty of subtle things going on in fossil that make
> it much harder to handle the disk being full than in a conventional
> file system.
>
> Fossil needs some notion of being close to full, at which point
> its behavior would change. Automatic snapshots would stop,
> as would mtime updates and any other source of automatic
> dirtying of blocks. There should be a few blocks reserved for
> snapshots taken in response to manual console commands.
> Then when fossil fills, you can remove recently written data
> (if some runaway program has filled the disk) or connect to
> the console and delete old snapshots or take an archival
> snapshot.
>
> If someone wants to work on making this happen, I would be
> happy to provide further details.
>
> Russ
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-06 23:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-06 21:02 Bruce Ellis
2005-12-06 22:07 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-06 22:19 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-12-06 23:10 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-12-06 23:41 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-06 23:48 ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2005-12-07 21:03 ` rog
2005-12-07 21:07 ` Steve Simon
2005-12-07 21:12 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-12-07 21:36 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-07 21:55 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-12-07 22:09 ` jmk
2005-12-07 22:41 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-07 21:49 ` jmk
2005-12-07 0:17 ` geoff
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