Re: [9fans] ports from GPL

["Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>]

i can compile the entire plan9 distribution in less time that it
takes to compile the newest and best GCC.

i'm sure that 5.0 won't even fit on my disk (when the monkeys
stop typing).

and kenc produces better code under most non-contrived programs.
their major mistake, apart from not thinking before coding, is that all
of those stupid inlines blow your cache and ken is clever.

brucee

On 3/18/06, dmr@plan9.bell-labs.com <dmr@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> Coile remarked
>
>  > ...  I can see at least three different cultures.
>  > Murry Hill (Bell Labs), 545 Technology Sq (MIT), and Berkeley.  These
>  > cultures have belief systems that are mutually exclusive.  And there
>  > must be subcultures as well.  The socket interface, for example, is
>  > really MIT culture thru BBN to BSD.
>
> There were two markedly different groups on different
> floors of 545 Tech Sq:
> the ITS crowd (emacs, eventually GNU), vs. CTSS then
> Multics. Unix itself was influenced much more by the
> second group.
>
> I'm reasonably sure that the socket interface was Berkeley's.
> BBN was tasked by ARPA to develop the TCP/IP stack for BSD,
> but UCB's CSRG was quite resistant to incorporating the BBN
> work in favor of their own.  This was the major subject of
> several somewhat messy meetings of ARPA's BSD advisory board.
> I no longer remember what the BBN ideas were for the
> programming interface to networks; they may have contained
> the germ of the socket scheme.
>
> On the other hand, the --longoption convention (mod the -- vs -)
> espoused by all recent GNU stuff is a reversion to Multics
> conventions that were taken out of early Unix with its mostly 1-char
> options, and which were generally followed by BSD.
>
>        Dennis
>