From: "Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] impressive
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 19:32:33 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190605090232h5839d17eu1da11b6a2e187d58@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <780C9C74-EB3B-44AA-B6FE-D714DDC86683@telus.net>
if you want to have fun (?) with autoconfusion try it on the
playstation 2 linux kit. gee 128 bit registers, missing
instrs, weird set of libraries etc.
i only had to set up a boot option for inferno.
it was quicker to hack 0c (0l mainly) into e[cla].
next day inferno on PS2. if i was autoconfused by dumb
scripts i'd still be in NJ. and /dev/dct, /dev/gpu? i believe
is a more usefull than APIs.
brucee
On 5/9/06, Paul Lalonde <plalonde@telus.net> wrote:
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> Agreed on using up a person's time. It's depressing that it takes
> one of the more senior people on any software team to properly
> maintain a build. The other option is to acknowledge it will belong
> to some junior and be broken most of the time.
> Builds shouldn't be rocket science, but every project I've worked on,
> even the best, have had a hard time with the mechanics of building
> (all of them have involved some non-trivial number of platforms to
> support: games suck that way).
>
> Paul
>
> On 8-May-06, at 7:20 PM, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:
>
> > been there. done that. the problem is that you end up wasting one
> > person's time
> > with build-related issues. not many people understand make very well.
> > and parameterizing make variables -- which i was attempting to
> > allude to ---
> > does not help matters.
> >
> > when i was knee deep in this dreck, i don't remember gnu make
> > having target-local
> > variables. i had to do it through other subterfuge, including
> > VPATH and friends.
> >
> > - erik
> >
> >> I just did it over the last two weeks. Cross compiles 2.5 platfroms
> >> (SPUs are strange), with tests and debug targets. Not too bad if you
> >> are willing to let *one* person hold the per-directory included-
> >> makefiles in order. It makes a huge difference (both things, the
> >> full dependency tree, and the one person thing).
> >> But the code is a little rude - your world winds up with too many
> >> parameterized make variables: $($(TARGETOS)$(DIR)BUILDDIR). And you
> >> have to use GNU make's target-local variables to remember that state.
> >> It ain't pretty.
> >>
> >> Is there a better solution?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-09 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-26 0:26 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26 0:48 ` geoff
2006-04-26 0:54 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26 0:53 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26 2:15 ` Taj Khattra
2006-04-26 4:59 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-26 12:37 ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-26 15:28 ` Rian Hunter
2006-04-26 16:39 ` Micah Stetson
2006-04-26 18:02 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-26 20:14 ` Micah Stetson
2006-05-08 14:50 ` Harri Haataja
2006-05-08 15:04 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-05-08 15:12 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-05-08 20:08 ` Micah Stetson
2006-05-08 20:52 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-05-08 21:10 ` Jack Johnson
2006-05-08 21:17 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-05-08 21:18 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-08 22:25 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-05-09 21:56 ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-05-10 0:13 ` geoff
2006-05-10 8:39 ` Lluís Batlle
2006-05-08 23:31 ` geoff
2006-05-09 1:18 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09 1:39 ` quanstro
2006-05-09 2:12 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09 2:20 ` quanstro
2006-05-09 3:00 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09 9:32 ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2006-04-26 22:57 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26 4:57 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-26 4:53 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-26 5:11 ` Roman Shaposhnick
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-10 0:45 erik quanstrom
2006-05-10 2:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-05-10 3:35 ` David Arnold
2006-05-10 4:03 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-05-08 22:02 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27 2:13 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27 1:35 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27 1:23 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27 5:08 ` Micah Stetson
2006-04-27 1:10 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27 2:06 ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-26 3:24 jmk
2006-04-26 2:38 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26 0:55 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26 1:07 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25 10:20 erik quanstrom
2006-04-25 2:30 erik quanstrom
2006-04-25 2:48 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-24 20:37 Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-24 20:51 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-24 21:32 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-25 11:06 ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-25 11:08 ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-25 2:15 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25 2:23 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25 2:37 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25 3:51 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25 8:17 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25 17:53 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26 1:11 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-26 1:19 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26 2:12 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25 3:02 ` Andy Newman
2006-04-25 3:13 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-25 19:57 ` Dan Cross
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