Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[jmk]

http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator

for the obsessives.

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[Harri Haataja]

On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:08:47PM -0400, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator

Also, http://www.codebunny.org/coding/shanty/

--
The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron,
a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas.

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[ems]

On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 13:52 +0300, Harri Haataja wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:08:47PM -0400, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> > http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator
>
> Also, http://www.codebunny.org/coding/shanty/
>
rc clone anyone?

csant, Jack Johnson: nice work. It looks very nice.

RE: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[cej]

>-- 
>The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron,
>a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas.

Yep!!
(couldn't help myself)
++pac.

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[Bruce Ellis]

perhaps a programmer who can't, a manager who doesn't
know the product, and no users because the sales dudes
are taught by the managers.

it happens.

brucee

On 7/18/06, cej@gli.cas.cz <cej@gli.cas.cz> wrote:
> >--
> >The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron,
> >a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas.
>
> Yep!!
> (couldn't help myself)
> ++pac.

Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9

[jmk]

When I got home this evening after a very frustrating
couple of days (weeks, really) and found my mailbox slashdotted
with this, it took physical restraint to prevent me from
replying.

But this was too good to resist:

On Wed Jun  7 20:33:26 EDT 2006, corey_s@qwest.net wrote:
> ...
> Wait, no - because I am not Super-Programmer. And also because, one of the 
> primary benefits of open-source software and code-reuse in general is... well,
> so. that. people. may. reuse. code.
> ...

You missed the 'bad' before 'code'.

People are lazy and stupid (me included) and will always look for
the easy way out. Open Source (as it is generally understood) has
merely lowered the standard for entry.

Lucho's work to upgrade David Hogan's GCC port is being done for a
very particular purpose, it's part of a Department of Energy research
project looking at operating system requirements for the next
generation of peta-scale supercomputers and it's necessary to run
some of the accepted supercomputer applications on Plan 9 for comparison.
The resulting GCC will be, as now, walled off in its own ghetto and
not play any part in the day to day life or death struggles of Plan 9.
If it proves to be too difficult to get the targeted applications to
run this way, we'll look for another solution.

Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9

[Ronald G Minnich]

jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:

> If it proves to be too difficult to get the targeted applications to
> run this way, we'll look for another solution.

exact-a-mundo. Whatever that word means.

We've already looked at a few things here that we have not discussed, 
including source-to-source transformation using the U. Oregon PDT. It's 
just a messy problem. We have yet to find a really satisfying solution. 
I can't say I like the gcc path, but we've tried a fair number of ideas 
and we keep getting back to that one.

ron

Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9

[Ronald G Minnich]

so, end of this thread, we hope.

GARSH, Mickey, I had no idea this would happen. You make one simple 
comment, and ... ah well.

anyways, a few thoughts on another tangent.

linux nowadays is all about building a windows desktop. BORING. Or a Mac 
OSX ripoff desktop. BORING. And just look at all that great vista stuff. 
oh boy, I can slant my windows or something. Who the F*** cares?

What if you had a window manager that could be recursive? that would set 
it up so you can name windows by a path name? that would let you treat 
the recursive desktops -- to any level -- as just another window? that 
would trivially allow you to connect mouse clicks in a window to control 
actions for one or more other windows (i.e. you could logically group 
windows and then control all of them via mouse clicks)? That would maybe 
let you easily connect output from a process in one window to another? 
that would let you build little widgets that  could easily control other 
windows? That would let you display all window state in another window? 
That would let you set, say, all windows with a browser with the label 
abaco-### (### a number), with a simple text command; and let you find 
all windows with the label abaco.* with, in the limit, a grep? That 
would make it easy to group all windows with the label 'abaco.*' so that 
you could say 'hide all abaco' with a simple script?

Wouldn't that be neat? I mean, that's a real bitch in X, right?

Except ... you already have it.

ron

Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9

[ems]

On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 21:51 -0600, Ronald G Minnich wrote: 
> What if you had a window manager that could be recursive? that would set 
> it up so you can name windows by a path name? that would let you treat 
> the recursive desktops -- to any level -- as just another window? that 
> would trivially allow you to connect mouse clicks in a window to control 
> actions for one or more other windows (i.e. you could logically group 
> windows and then control all of them via mouse clicks)? That would maybe 
> let you easily connect output from a process in one window to another? 
> that would let you build little widgets that  could easily control other 
> windows? That would let you display all window state in another window? 
> That would let you set, say, all windows with a browser with the label 
> abaco-### (### a number), with a simple text command; and let you find 
> all windows with the label abaco.* with, in the limit, a grep? That 
> would make it easy to group all windows with the label 'abaco.*' so that 
> you could say 'hide all abaco' with a simple script?

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      Glenda

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. (BTW, is there ACSII Glenda anywhere?)

ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[csant]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:25:59 +0200, ems <oat@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> (BTW, is there ACSII Glenda anywhere?)



      (\(\
      ¸”˘ ˘˛
      (  . .)
      |   ° ¡
      ¿     ;
     c?“─UJ”




/c (hoping to get somebody think "boy, that's ugly!" and make a better  
one...)

Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[e.c.sharpe]

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:17:53 +0200
csant <csant@csant.info> wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:25:59 +0200, ems <oat@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> > (BTW, is there ACSII Glenda anywhere?)
> 
> 
> 
>       (\(\
>       ¸”˘ ˘˛
>       (  . .)
>       |   ° ¡
>       ¿     ;
>      c?“─UJ”
> 
> 
> 
> 
> /c (hoping to get somebody think "boy, that's ugly!" and make a better  
> one...)

I think she's pretty cute, actually.
:)

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[Jack Johnson]

                    ::iiii;;
                    ii..;;;;ii
                    ii;;iiLLii;;
          ;;tttt;;  ..tt..GGGGii;;
        ..ii....iiii  ;;iiiiEEffii..
        ;;;;..ff;;;;tt..ii..ffKKtttt
          ii..ffEELL;;tt;;jjttLLttiiiiiiiiiiii..
          ;;ii..LLEELL;;jjtt,,            ..;;ttii
            ;;ii..iiKKDDii                      ..tt..
              ;;ii..ttff..                        ;;tt..
                ::iiii..                          ..;;ii
                    tt                              ..ttii
                  ::;;                                ;;tt
                  ;;..                                ..jj..
                  ;;;;                                iijj;;
                  ..ii                    ,,..      ..GGttii
                    ii                    LL;;        ..ttii
                    ii..                  ..      ;;....tt;;
                    ..ii                      ..ff;;ff;;tt..
                      ii                      ttLLGGDDtttt
                      ii..                    ;;ffffff;;tt
                      ;;;;                    ..tt;;;;;;tt
                      ;;;;                      ;;ii,,iiii
                      ii..                        ....iiii
                      ii..                            iiii
                      ii..                            iiii
                      ii..                            tt;;
                    iiLL..                          ..tt..
                  ..ffttii                          ::ii
                  ;;ii;;tt,,                      ..tt..
                  ..ttttjjGGii                ..ii;;tt
                    ..iittiitttt..      ;;tt....tt..ii
                              ;;ttttii;;..ii::  ;;ttii
                                      ..iiiiiiiiii..

(looks best fixed-width)

Courtesy http://www.degraeve.com/img2txt.php and
http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9/img/plan9bunnysmwhite.jpg though I
suspect some tweaking can find a better combination.

-Jack

On 7/16/06, e.c.sharpe <bride.of.excession@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:17:53 +0200
> csant <csant@csant.info> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:25:59 +0200, ems <oat@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > (BTW, is there ACSII Glenda anywhere?)
> >
> >
> >
> >       (\(\
> >       ¸"˘ ˘˛
> >       (  . .)
> >       |   ° ¡
> >       ¿     ;
> >      c?"─UJ"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > /c (hoping to get somebody think "boy, that's ugly!" and make a better
> > one...)
>
> I think she's pretty cute, actually.
> :)
>
>

Re: Re: ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9)

[Rodolfo (kix)]

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Is very very good!



2006/7/17, Jack Johnson <knapjack@gmail.com>:
>
>                     ::iiii;;
>                     ii..;;;;ii
>                     ii;;iiLLii;;
>           ;;tttt;;  ..tt..GGGGii;;
>         ..ii....iiii  ;;iiiiEEffii..
>         ;;;;..ff;;;;tt..ii..ffKKtttt
>           ii..ffEELL;;tt;;jjttLLttiiiiiiiiiiii..
>           ;;ii..LLEELL;;jjtt,,            ..;;ttii
>             ;;ii..iiKKDDii                      ..tt..
>               ;;ii..ttff..                        ;;tt..
>                 ::iiii..                          ..;;ii
>                     tt                              ..ttii
>                   ::;;                                ;;tt
>                   ;;..                                ..jj..
>                   ;;;;                                iijj;;
>                   ..ii                    ,,..      ..GGttii
>                     ii                    LL;;        ..ttii
>                     ii..                  ..      ;;....tt;;
>                     ..ii                      ..ff;;ff;;tt..
>                       ii                      ttLLGGDDtttt
>                       ii..                    ;;ffffff;;tt
>                       ;;;;                    ..tt;;;;;;tt
>                       ;;;;                      ;;ii,,iiii
>                       ii..                        ....iiii
>                       ii..                            iiii
>                       ii..                            iiii
>                       ii..                            tt;;
>                     iiLL..                          ..tt..
>                   ..ffttii                          ::ii
>                   ;;ii;;tt,,                      ..tt..
>                   ..ttttjjGGii                ..ii;;tt
>                     ..iittiitttt..      ;;tt....tt..ii
>                               ;;ttttii;;..ii::  ;;ttii
>                                       ..iiiiiiiiii..
>
> (looks best fixed-width)
>
> Courtesy http://www.degraeve.com/img2txt.php and
> http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9/img/plan9bunnysmwhite.jpg though I
> suspect some tweaking can find a better combination.
>
> -Jack
>
> On 7/16/06, e.c.sharpe <bride.of.excession@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:17:53 +0200
> > csant <csant@csant.info> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:25:59 +0200, ems <oat@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > > (BTW, is there ACSII Glenda anywhere?)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >       (\(\
> > >       ¸"˘ ˘˛
> > >       (  . .)
> > >       |   ° ¡
> > >       ¿     ;
> > >      c?"─UJ"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > /c (hoping to get somebody think "boy, that's ugly!" and make a better
> > > one...)
> >
> > I think she's pretty cute, actually.
> > :)
> >
> >
>



-- 
Rodolfo García "kix"

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