From: "Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] frogs and osx
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:35:17 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190801032235t860acd1w8a3041a5214b45f0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080104022953.CE1461E8C1F@holo.morphisms.net>
my recollection is frogs was for files created by mistake.
nothing to do with UTF-8. as for ICON\r ... can we call
that consistency by obscurity. after all it is not to hard
at all to subvert but a user won't, click click click nuh.
also, i remember well when ' ' was snuck out to see if
anyone noticed. it stuck.
brucee
On Jan 4, 2008 1:29 PM, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
> > Using u9fs to access my mac I find I cannot see directories (folders)
> > that have their own specific icon.
> >
> > This turns out to be because these directories contain a file
> > Icon<cr> whiel <cr> is ASCII 13, and /sys/src/9/port/chan.c:1656
> > defines the frogs illegal in filenames to include carriage return.
> >
> > Why does frogs contain these latters, My feeling is that only <nul>
> > should be illegal, perhaps these are a hangover from pre utf-8
> > days?
> >
> > Perhaps there is a good reason for not allowing such characters,
> > I can see that creating such files should be discouraged but
> > failing a read(2) of a directory containing such files seems extreme.
> >
> > Is it historic or there for a very good reason™ ?
>
> In addition to NUL, surely / should be illegal!
> I certainly wouldn't want \n in file names; \r seems just too close.
> In general, I'm quite happy that file names are guaranteed
> not to contain such difficult characters. There's very little
> benefit to be had by allowing them, and they complicate many
> things (witness xargs -0 on Unix).
>
> A better workaround for this particular problem would be
> for u9fs to rewrite the name or omit that entry entirely.
>
> Russ
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-04 6:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-03 19:46 Steve Simon
2008-01-04 2:29 ` Russ Cox
2008-01-04 6:35 ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2008-01-04 7:24 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-01-04 7:31 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-04 7:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-01-04 7:45 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-04 7:45 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-01-04 9:52 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-04 10:17 ` Steve Simon
2008-01-04 10:26 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-04 11:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-06 13:51 ` underspecified
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