Re: [9fans] mmap

Re: [9fans] mmap

[erik quanstrom]

> * Roman V. Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another
> > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library
> > > support most likely will require special kernel support.
> >
> > What aspect of shared libraries are you aching for? Dynamic
> > linking or the dynamic loading?
>
> 3rd: Sharing pages.

segment(3) already provides this.

- erik

Re: [9fans] mmap

[ron minnich]

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:50 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
>> * Roman V. Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another
>> > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library
>> > > support most likely will require special kernel support.
>> >
>> > What aspect of shared libraries are you aching for? Dynamic
>> > linking or the dynamic loading?
>>
>> 3rd: Sharing pages.
>
> segment(3) already provides this.


I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid.
Time travelers. At the end of the movie, you realized that they were
ending at the point where they were started, stuck in a loop, oh no!

and here we are at mmap again.

ron

Re: [9fans] mmap

[Charles Forsyth]

>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid.

which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap.

Re: [9fans] mmap

[ron minnich]

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> wrote:
>>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid.
>
> which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap.
>
>

I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back
through the frame -- bad idea.

ron

Re: [9fans] mmap

[Bruce Ellis]

Is it worth adding that in Inferno all libraries are shared as is all
of memory - seamlessly and safely? Always has been - always will be.

And there is no bloody mmap() in sight.

Also I believe that every bad science fiction movie is analogous to a
computer science moral play. And the more the movie tries to make
sense the bigger the lesson to be learnt. Of course Plan9 chose the
worst movie for the best lessons-that-have-been-learnt.

Just making it up - I seem to be the last foreign 9fan in town.

brucee

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:58 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> wrote:
>>>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid.
>>
>> which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap.
>>
>>
>
> I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
> walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
> that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back
> through the frame -- bad idea.
>
> ron
>
>

Re: [9fans] mmap

[Enrico Weigelt]

* ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
> walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
> that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back
> through the frame -- bad idea.

Time bandits ?


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Re: [9fans] mmap

[Andrew Simmons]

I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
"Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
you saw the movie, I'm pretty sure that the group could mount a
co-ordinated effort to identify it.

2008/11/4 Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de>:
> * ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
>> walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
>> that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back
>> through the frame -- bad idea.
>
> Time bandits ?
>
>
> cu
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>
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Re: [9fans] mmap

[Bakul Shah]

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:04 +1300 "Andrew Simmons" <kodogo@gmail.com>  wrote:
> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
> you saw the movie, I'm pretty sure that the group could mount a
> co-ordinated effort to identify it.

Sounds like The Time Travelers

Re: [9fans] mmap

[Charles Forsyth]

"time travel" plots reminds me of an obscure but splendid czech film that i've only seen once
http://filmjournal.net/czech/2006/09/18/tomorrow-ill-wake-up-and-scald-myself-with-tea/
but have yet to find on DVD. it is very funny.

Re: [9fans] mmap

[ron minnich]

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Andrew Simmons <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
> you saw the movie, I'm pretty sure that the group could mount a
> co-ordinated effort to identify it.
>

It had to be 1963.

I am doubtless older than you, my common experience nowadays is being
older than everyone.

But so much more charming!


ron

Re: [9fans] mmap

[David Leimbach]

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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:

> * ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
> > walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
> > that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back
> > through the frame -- bad idea.
>
> Time bandits ?
>

Don't touch it... it's pure evil.


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Re: [9fans] mmap

[Kim Shrier]

On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, ron minnich wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Andrew Simmons <kodogo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
>> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
>> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
>> you saw the movie, I'm pretty sure that the group could mount a
>> co-ordinated effort to identify it.
>>
>
> It had to be 1963.
>
> I am doubtless older than you, my common experience nowadays is being
> older than everyone.
>
> But so much more charming!
>

I think the movie is The Time Travelers.

I remember seeing it in the early 60's.

Maybe I'm getting too old... Hey you kids! Get off of my lawn.

Kim

[9fans] Time travel

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Kim Shrier wrote:

> Maybe I'm getting too old... Hey you kids! Get off of my lawn.

Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"

--lyndon (in firm denial of becoming a legitimate 'grey beard')

Re: [9fans] Time travel

[Jack Johnson]

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
> Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"

Those crazy kids with their Hulu loops.

-J

Re: [9fans] Time travel

[Bruce Ellis]

No respect those kids wearing crazy clothes and mucking up constantly.

BTW can whoever took the photos of me and tiger please send them to me
or post them somewhere.

brucee

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Jack Johnson <knapjack@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>> Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"
>
> Those crazy kids with their Hulu loops.
>
> -J
>
>

Re: [9fans] mmap

[gas]

FYI:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3835498/The_funniest_and_cleverest_time_travel_movie_ever_made__

/G.

--- Den tis 2008-11-04 skrev Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>:

> Från: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
> Ämne: Re: [9fans] mmap
> Till: 9fans@9fans.net
> Datum: tisdag 4 november 2008 15.13
> "time travel" plots reminds me of an obscure but
> splendid czech film that i've only seen once
> http://filmjournal.net/czech/2006/09/18/tomorrow-ill-wake-up-and-scald-myself-with-tea/
> but have yet to find on DVD. it is very funny.


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