* [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge [not found] <a5903cce-4631-4d53-ab29-54a5b8b66361@x29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> @ 2009-03-19 3:37 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-03-19 4:36 ` David Leimbach 2009-03-19 9:45 ` Pavel Klinkovsky 2009-03-30 9:15 ` [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Icarus Sparry 1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-19 3:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed. Feel free to join the Casella group. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output. http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75 Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it before you read this message by another keen enthusiast. Sounds sound. brucee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 3:37 ` [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-19 4:36 ` David Leimbach 2009-03-19 4:47 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-03-19 9:45 ` Pavel Klinkovsky 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: David Leimbach @ 2009-03-19 4:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1027 bytes --] Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness. Makes me wish I'd spent more time with forth than I have so far (well almost). Dave On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed. > > Feel free to join the Casella group. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM > Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge > To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com> > > There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. > Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means > that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output. > > > http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75 > > Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it > before you read this message by another keen enthusiast. > > Sounds sound. > > brucee > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1588 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 4:36 ` David Leimbach @ 2009-03-19 4:47 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-03-19 6:21 ` Jeff Sickel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-19 4:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun and functionality. The company is cool too. Ask me if you need a contact. I flippantly asked for 64 cores for a chess machine. There is apparently an unannounced board with two chips - 80 cores. I'm not sure any human should have to program it manually so tool fiends please collaborate on this - the linux tool kit is unimpressive. First to glenda it wins a t-shirt. brucee On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness. Makes me wish I'd spent more time with > forth than I have so far (well almost). > Dave > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed. >> >> Feel free to join the Casella group. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> >> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM >> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge >> To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com> >> >> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. >> Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means >> that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output. >> >> >> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75 >> >> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it >> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast. >> >> Sounds sound. >> >> brucee >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 4:47 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-19 6:21 ` Jeff Sickel 2009-03-19 6:30 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2009-03-19 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun > and functionality. What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass? At least that keeps us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain... If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target well enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to linuxemu... -jas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 6:21 ` Jeff Sickel @ 2009-03-19 6:30 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-19 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I don't trust penguins. But it's worth a try. I haven't installed the linux goo on my pusbox - if tiger wasn't house trained he would do more than bark at it when it thrashes crazy. But yes. Read the spec and come up with ideas. Move this to Casella group if we have enough enthusiasts. brucee On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun >> and functionality. > > > What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass? At least that keeps > us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain > enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain... > > If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target well > enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to > linuxemu... > > -jas > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 3:37 ` [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge Bruce Ellis 2009-03-19 4:36 ` David Leimbach @ 2009-03-19 9:45 ` Pavel Klinkovsky 2009-03-20 2:50 ` Bruce Ellis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Pavel Klinkovsky @ 2009-03-19 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year. We are testing it for a signal processing. I can confirm it is a wonderful chip. But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-) Pavel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-19 9:45 ` Pavel Klinkovsky @ 2009-03-20 2:50 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-04-06 18:00 ` maht 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-20 2:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Please share your experience. http://groups.google.com/group/casella brucee On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky <pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote: > I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year. > We are testing it for a signal processing. > > I can confirm it is a wonderful chip. > But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-) > > Pavel > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-03-20 2:50 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2009-04-06 18:00 ` maht 2009-04-06 18:54 ` Jeff Sickel ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: maht @ 2009-04-06 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs SeaForth is dead already http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm http://colorforth.com/S40.htm Bruce Ellis wrote: > Please share your experience. > > http://groups.google.com/group/casella > > brucee > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky > <pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year. >> We are testing it for a signal processing. >> >> I can confirm it is a wonderful chip. >> But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-) >> >> Pavel >> >> >> > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-06 18:00 ` maht @ 2009-04-06 18:54 ` Jeff Sickel 2009-04-06 22:46 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-04-07 9:07 ` Robert Raschke 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2009-04-06 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs "It's just a flesh wound." On Apr 6, 2009, at 1:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: > > SeaForth is dead already > > http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm > > http://colorforth.com/S40.htm >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-06 18:00 ` maht 2009-04-06 18:54 ` Jeff Sickel @ 2009-04-06 22:46 ` Bruce Ellis 2009-04-07 9:07 ` Robert Raschke 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-04-06 22:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs What a shame - tho there is a certain charm in owning a custom computer that can't be replicated. Hopefully there will be a firesale of stuff. There can't be many in the wild, mine is serial number 30 - what's your Jeff? brucee On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: > > SeaForth is dead already > > http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm > > http://colorforth.com/S40.htm > > > Bruce Ellis wrote: >> >> Please share your experience. >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/casella >> >> brucee >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky >> <pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year. >>> We are testing it for a signal processing. >>> >>> I can confirm it is a wonderful chip. >>> But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-) >>> >>> Pavel >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-06 18:00 ` maht 2009-04-06 18:54 ` Jeff Sickel 2009-04-06 22:46 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2009-04-07 9:07 ` Robert Raschke 2009-04-07 10:48 ` Alexander Clouter 2009-04-07 14:24 ` maht 2 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Robert Raschke @ 2009-04-07 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: > > SeaForth is dead already > > http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm > > http://colorforth.com/S40.htm > These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 - 2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy. Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-07 9:07 ` Robert Raschke @ 2009-04-07 10:48 ` Alexander Clouter 2009-04-07 14:24 ` maht 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Clouter @ 2009-04-07 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Robert Raschke <rtrlists@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: >> >> SeaForth is dead already >> >> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm >> >> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm >> > > These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 - > 2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So > I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems > to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy. > For whatever it's worth: ---- alex@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/S40.htm Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2009-04-07 11:47:19-- http://colorforth.com/S40.htm Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50 Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:20 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:52:50 GMT <-------- ETag: "2e6982-849-49da5d92" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 2121 Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/html Length: 2121 (2.1K) [text/html] Remote file exists and could contain further links, but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving. alex@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2009-04-07 11:47:21-- http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50 Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:21 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:48:29 GMT <------- ETag: "172cd95-688-49da5c8d" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 1672 Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/html Length: 1672 (1.6K) [text/html] Remote file exists and could contain further links, but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving. ---- Cheers -- Alexander Clouter .sigmonster says: You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-07 9:07 ` Robert Raschke 2009-04-07 10:48 ` Alexander Clouter @ 2009-04-07 14:24 ` maht 2009-04-07 14:52 ` Robert Raschke 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: maht @ 2009-04-07 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > These docs aren't dated. they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL pulled funding and sacked Moore ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-07 14:24 ` maht @ 2009-04-07 14:52 ` Robert Raschke 2009-04-07 15:04 ` maht 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Robert Raschke @ 2009-04-07 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: > >> These docs aren't dated. > > they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL > pulled funding and sacked Moore > Catching up with my online reading and the Forth group is indeed full of this since the weekend. It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere. Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge 2009-04-07 14:52 ` Robert Raschke @ 2009-04-07 15:04 ` maht 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: maht @ 2009-04-07 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's > designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere. > > Robby > > > poor man, how stressful is that ! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New [not found] <a5903cce-4631-4d53-ab29-54a5b8b66361@x29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> 2009-03-19 3:37 ` [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-30 9:15 ` Icarus Sparry 2009-03-30 12:07 ` Bruce Ellis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Icarus Sparry @ 2009-03-30 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +0000, Bruce Ellis wrote: > There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are > needed. > > Feel free to join the Casella group. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: brucee > <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM > Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella > <casella@googlegroups.com> > > There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks > to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that > Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output. > > http://www.intellasys.net/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75 > > Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it > before you read this message by another keen enthusiast. > > Sounds sound. > > brucee Before one spends too much time on this, I would suggest a quick visit to comp.lang.forth for the thread "Chuck Moore news" and also www.colorforth.com. Clearly there are problems, and message 7f7fc71-a87f-4d08-86c0-42d14742db74@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com asserts (without proof) that Intellasys has closed its doors for the last month. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New 2009-03-30 9:15 ` [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Icarus Sparry @ 2009-03-30 12:07 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2009-03-30 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I disagree. It is a chore going thru the religion and it ends up not having any relevance to the chip. brucee On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Icarus Sparry <usenet@icarus.freeuk.com> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +0000, Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are >> needed. >> >> Feel free to join the Casella group. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: brucee >> <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> >> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM >> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella >> <casella@googlegroups.com> >> >> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks >> to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that >> Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output. >> >> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php? > option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75 >> >> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it >> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast. >> >> Sounds sound. >> >> brucee > > Before one spends too much time on this, I would suggest a quick visit to > comp.lang.forth for the thread "Chuck Moore news" and also > www.colorforth.com. > > Clearly there are problems, and message > 7f7fc71-a87f-4d08-86c0-42d14742db74@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com > asserts (without proof) that Intellasys has closed its doors for the last > month. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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