[9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Bruce Ellis]

There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.

Feel free to join the Casella group.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com>

There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.

http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75

Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.

Sounds sound.

brucee

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[David Leimbach]

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Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness.  Makes me wish I'd spent more time with
forth than I have so far (well almost).
Dave

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.
>
> Feel free to join the Casella group.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
> To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com>
>
> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
> Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
> that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.
>
>
> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75
>
> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.
>
> Sounds sound.
>
> brucee
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Bruce Ellis]

The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
and functionality.

The company is cool too. Ask me if you need a contact. I flippantly
asked for 64 cores for a chess machine. There is apparently an
unannounced board with two chips - 80 cores.

I'm not sure any human should have to program it manually so tool
fiends please collaborate on this - the linux tool kit is
unimpressive. First to glenda it wins a t-shirt.

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness.  Makes me wish I'd spent more time with
> forth than I have so far (well almost).
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.
>>
>> Feel free to join the Casella group.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: brucee <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
>> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
>> To: Casella <casella@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
>> Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
>> that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.
>>
>>
>> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75
>>
>> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
>> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.
>>
>> Sounds sound.
>>
>> brucee
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Jeff Sickel]

On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:

> The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
> and functionality.


What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass?  At least that keeps
us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain
enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain...

If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target
well
enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to
linuxemu...

-jas

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Bruce Ellis]

I don't trust penguins. But it's worth a try. I haven't installed the
linux goo on my pusbox - if tiger wasn't house trained he would do
more than bark at it when it thrashes crazy.

But yes. Read the spec and come up with ideas. Move this to Casella
group if we have enough enthusiasts.

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
>
>> The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
>> and functionality.
>
>
> What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass?  At least that keeps
> us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain
> enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain...
>
> If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target well
> enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to
> linuxemu...
>
> -jas
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Pavel Klinkovsky]

I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
We are testing it for a signal processing.

I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)

Pavel

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Bruce Ellis]

Please share your experience.

http://groups.google.com/group/casella

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
<pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
> We are testing it for a signal processing.
>
> I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
> But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)
>
> Pavel
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New

[Icarus Sparry]

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +0000, Bruce Ellis wrote:

> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are
> needed.
>
> Feel free to join the Casella group.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: brucee
> <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella
> <casella@googlegroups.com>
>
> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks
> to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that
> Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.
>
> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75
>
> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.
>
> Sounds sound.
>
> brucee

Before one spends too much time on this, I would suggest a quick visit to
comp.lang.forth for the thread "Chuck Moore news" and also
www.colorforth.com.

Clearly there are problems, and message
7f7fc71-a87f-4d08-86c0-42d14742db74@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
asserts (without proof) that Intellasys has closed its doors for the last
month.

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New

[Bruce Ellis]

I disagree. It is a chore going thru the religion and it ends up not
having any relevance to the chip.

brucee

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Icarus Sparry <usenet@icarus.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +0000, Bruce Ellis wrote:
>
>> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are
>> needed.
>>
>> Feel free to join the Casella group.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: brucee
>> <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
>> Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella
>> <casella@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks
>> to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that
>> Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.
>>
>> http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?
> option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=75
>>
>> Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
>> before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.
>>
>> Sounds sound.
>>
>> brucee
>
> Before one spends too much time on this, I would suggest a quick visit to
> comp.lang.forth for the thread "Chuck Moore news" and also
> www.colorforth.com.
>
> Clearly there are problems, and message
> 7f7fc71-a87f-4d08-86c0-42d14742db74@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
> asserts (without proof) that Intellasys has closed its doors for the last
> month.
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[maht]

SeaForth is dead already

http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

http://colorforth.com/S40.htm


Bruce Ellis wrote:
> Please share your experience.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/casella
>
> brucee
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
> <pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
>> We are testing it for a signal processing.
>>
>> I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
>> But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Jeff Sickel]

"It's just a flesh wound."

On Apr 6, 2009, at 1:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
> SeaForth is dead already
>
> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
>
> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Bruce Ellis]

What a shame - tho there is a certain charm in owning a custom
computer that can't be replicated. Hopefully there will be a firesale
of stuff. There can't be many in the wild, mine is serial number 30 -
what's your Jeff?

brucee

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
> SeaForth is dead already
>
> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
>
> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
>
>
> Bruce Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Please share your experience.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/casella
>>
>> brucee
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
>> <pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
>>> We are testing it for a signal processing.
>>>
>>> I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
>>> But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Robert Raschke]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
> SeaForth is dead already
>
> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
>
> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
>

These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 -
2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So
I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems
to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy.

Robby

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Alexander Clouter]

Robert Raschke <rtrlists@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> SeaForth is dead already
>>
>> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
>>
>> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
>>
>
> These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 -
> 2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So
> I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems
> to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy.
>
For whatever it's worth:
----
alex@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2009-04-07 11:47:19--  http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50
Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:20 GMT
  Server: Apache
  Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:52:50 GMT <--------
  ETag: "2e6982-849-49da5d92"
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 2121
  Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: text/html
Length: 2121 (2.1K) [text/html]
Remote file exists and could contain further links,
but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving.

alex@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2009-04-07 11:47:21--  http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50
Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:21 GMT
  Server: Apache
  Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:48:29 GMT <-------
  ETag: "172cd95-688-49da5c8d"
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 1672
  Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: text/html
Length: 1672 (1.6K) [text/html]
Remote file exists and could contain further links,
but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving.
----

Cheers

--
Alexander Clouter
.sigmonster says: You will receive a legacy which will place you above want.

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[maht]

> These docs aren't dated.

they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL
pulled funding  and sacked Moore

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[Robert Raschke]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> These docs aren't dated.
>
> they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL
> pulled funding  and sacked Moore
>

Catching up with my online reading and the Forth group is indeed full
of this since the weekend.

It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's
designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere.

Robby

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

[maht]

> It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's
> designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere.
>
> Robby
>
>
>
poor man, how stressful is that !