From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <78917c48cf5f83c2288c0a1745c38339@quanstro.net> From: erik quanstrom Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:52:31 -0500 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Building GCC In-Reply-To: <6C66BB26-4A3C-4361-8397-7628F22ABEA7@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: 36fab9de-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Unfortunately, we're about 20 years too late. People have Microsoft > Word and they don't need an operating system with useful features, > automated backup at no additional cost, and a wealth of > documentation. I doubt I'll purchase Office:mac 2008 for my iMac, as > I use troff now. If you disagree, raise your virtual hands. it's quite a stretch to go from acme being able to handle layouts to microsoft word. the oberon system had something like layouts, but layouts were part of the text module. thus there was no such thing as plain text. the next station had display postscript. but that's a quite complicated model. i think text should be text and images should be images. but you just can't do graphics or html layout with just text. you need something to glue (sorry) things together. it's fairly annoying that proof text is not selectable and doesn't work inside acme. i realize there are holes around the edges. i don't see how to edit or select a layout, just the text within layouts. maybe select skips non-text bits. what's so wrong about this idea? - erik