From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <7970D693-EB2A-4B25-8B27-8759A33E5A30@gmail.com> From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <5d375e920903302300v4c5c4da4g32ec1e4af0648390@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A238j) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:01:34 -0500 References: <8126F5C4-87DF-4EB8-9470-FACCB5B1BEAF@gmx.de> <3FD7E1D5-4CA2-4BEF-B24B-2DF1E51EC1BA@kix.in> <3aaafc130903292002n64910d8fnd960716a787d9b95@mail.gmail.com> <13426df10903292040p20c315abs202dec77398e14a3@mail.gmail.com> <3aaafc130903292046v36a30813q8cdf93e006ffa632@mail.gmail.com> <509071940903300708r6c477fb2he6ed869f0ba57650@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920903302126u7d5fcdd0nc16ebf9745fad018@mail.gmail.com> <6e35c0620903302136y683a8de6kff4a72ae490c4ef9@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920903302300v4c5c4da4g32ec1e4af0648390@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone Topicbox-Message-UUID: ce254274-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a device and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix that. Drawterm (or ports to devices like the DS) are not ends in themselves but a means to exploring new interface models, ideas, and applications. Likewise I hope the student reaches beyond simple drawterm support and implements an example iPhone environment/app within Plan 9 that matches it's interface model better than rio. As far as counting who would use this, that seems misdirected - GSoc is for the students to learn and get interested in plan 9, not for the community to get work done. -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Uriel wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan > wrote: >> hi, >> >> sorry if i have missed any prior discussion, but i would like to >> mention that i am curious about this effort. >> >> to me, iphone (or similar device) seems to be an appropriate device >> that is small enough to be a portable drawterm device (eventually it >> could become cheaper too). one can quickly connect it to a TV or a >> hybrid monitor and get a bigger display. >> >> i have tried this before in iphone with acme running in my mac: >> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/12/modified-vnc-software-enables-remote-access-on-iphone/ > > So, was acme usable with a touch screen as input? And does this mean > that VNC clients already provide the desired functionality? > >> so in my opinion, this is a good effort. > > I'm not sure how that conclusion follows from the rest of your email. > Can you clarify? > > Assuming that there are no overwhelming user interface issues (which > seems like a huge assumption to me), what actual useful functionality > would a drawterm port provide that vnc/ssh doesn't? > > I would remind people too that Google is going to *pay good money* for > this work, so I think it is reasonable to ask how worthy it is. > > Peace > > uriel >