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awl compiles under APE with a little work. someone, sorry I have forgotten w=
ho, did Stirling work a few years ago and got many Linux tools ported - to s=
upport 3rd party stuff. to my chagrin I never managed to get avn to work on t=
op of this.

the code was in Google code I think, his porting instructions should work fo=
r the latest gawk too.

if not put the code somewhere and I will have a go.

-Steve





> On 11 Mar 2015, at 21:04, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Warning: this will get messy *fast*.
>=20
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote=
:
>> Thanks for the link to the Google code repo.
>>=20
>> I'm currently on x86_64 Ubuntu 12.04. Building was not so smooth, several=

>> files are missing for the Power 64 port.
>=20
> Yup. Comment out the lines in the mkfiles. In src/cmd/mkfile, I commented o=
ut lines 34-36.
>=20
> I think you already need mk installed; you can grab it from here.
> =20
>>=20
>> I did as best I could to build things.  I suppose my expectations aren't
>> what they should be. I was looking for the usual
>>=20
>>         configure && make && make install
>>=20
>> experience, and it wasn't there. I like to compile gawk with multiple
>> compilers and thought I'd try ken's, but it wasn't clear to me which
>> o.out file to use, or how to install it such that it will get the
>> system's include files and libraries.
>>=20
>=20
> I doubt the Plan 9 compilers will even get *close* to building gawk.
>=20
> See, the compilers implement a variant of ANSI C with some C99-ish extensi=
ons. For once, the preprocessor does not work with #if's. You can only use #=
ifdef's.
>=20
> Because of this, 99% of the C standard library headers will NOT work with t=
he compilers.
>=20
> Another issue is that it seems that the linker does not read ELF files, so=
 linking with about anything is out of the question.
>=20
> As for the compilers you need to invoke...
>=20
> The directories in src/cmd are formatting like nc, na, and nl, where the *=
c ones are the compiles, *a, the assemblers, and *l, the linkers.
>=20
> The executable is at src/cmd/<dir>/o.out. For Ubuntu 64-bit, you'll want s=
rc/cmd/6c/o.out to compile and src/cmd/6l/o.out to link. Or, at least you wo=
uld...if the files weren't missing. Since half of them are, you'll instead w=
ant src/cmd/8c/o.out to compile and src/cmd/8l/o.out to link. Those are the 3=
2-bit compilers.
>=20
> I set up symlinks in ken-cc/bin using bin/8c as an alias for src/cmd/8c/o.=
out. Same thing for 8l.
>=20
> The command lines look something like:
>=20
> 8c tst.c # outputs tst.8
> 8l -o tst tst.8 # outputs tst
>=20
> Bottom line: you may be out of luck if you want to use ken-cc as a general=
-purpose C compiler. It isn't. At all.
>=20
> It's fun to toy with, though.
>=20
> Go had vastly better versions, but it seems they got ripped out recently. I=
 think Go 1.3 may have had them, in which case you'd do something like:
>=20
> go tool 6c tst.c
> go tool 6l -o tst tst.6
>=20
> As you can see, Go actually had a working 64-bit compiler.
>=20
> I have yet to figure out why the hell symlinks to the compilers never get s=
et up in the bin directory.
> =20
>> If this is easy to do, I'd appreciate hearing how. If not, then I'm not
>> going to worry about it. :-)
>>=20
>> Much thanks,
>>=20
>> Arnold
>>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Ryan
> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your progr=
am. Something=E2=80=99s wrong.
> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><br></div><div>awl compiles under APE w=
ith a little work. someone, sorry I have forgotten who, did Stirling work a f=
ew years ago and got many Linux tools ported - to support 3rd party stuff. t=
o my chagrin I never managed to get avn to work on top of this.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>the code was in Google code I think, his porting instructions s=
hould work for the latest gawk too.</div><div><br></div><div>if not put the c=
ode somewhere and I will have a go.</div><div><br></div><div>-Steve</div><di=
v><br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 11 Mar 2015, at 21=
:04, Ryan Gonzalez &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rymg19@gmail.com">rymg19@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Warning: this will get messy *fast*.<div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Aharon R=
obbins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arnold@skeeve.com" target=3D"=
_blank">arnold@skeeve.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">Thanks for the link to the Google code repo.<br>
<br>
I'm currently on x86_64 Ubuntu 12.04. Building was not so smooth, several<br=
>
files are missing for the Power 64 port.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>Yup. Comment out the lines in the mkfiles. In src/cmd/mkfile, I commented o=
ut lines 34-36.</div><div><br></div><div>I think you already need mk install=
ed; you can grab it from&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://swtch.com/plan9port/unix/mk-=
with-libs.tgz">here</a>.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
<br>
I did as best I could to build things.&nbsp; I suppose my expectations aren'=
t<br>
what they should be. I was looking for the usual<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make instal=
l<br>
<br>
experience, and it wasn't there. I like to compile gawk with multiple<br>
compilers and thought I'd try ken's, but it wasn't clear to me which<br>
o.out file to use, or how to install it such that it will get the<br>
system's include files and libraries.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I doubt the Plan 9 compilers will even g=
et *close* to building gawk.</div><div><br></div><div>See, the compilers imp=
lement a variant of ANSI C with some C99-ish extensions. For once, the prepr=
ocessor does not work with #if's. You can only use #ifdef's.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Because of this, 99% of the C standard library headers will NOT wo=
rk with the compilers.</div><div><br></div><div>Another issue is that it see=
ms that the linker does not read ELF files, so linking with about anything i=
s out of the question.</div><div><br></div><div>As for the compilers you nee=
d to invoke...</div><div><br></div><div>The directories in src/cmd are forma=
tting like <i>n</i>c, <i>n</i>a, and <i>n</i>l, where the *c ones are the co=
mpiles, *a, the assemblers, and *l, the linkers.</div><div><br></div><div>Th=
e executable is at src/cmd/&lt;dir&gt;/o.out. For Ubuntu 64-bit, you'll want=
 src/cmd/6c/o.out to compile and src/cmd/6l/o.out to link. Or, at least you w=
ould...if the files weren't missing. Since half of them are, you'll instead w=
ant src/cmd/8c/o.out to compile and src/cmd/8l/o.out to link. Those are the 3=
2-bit compilers.</div><div><br></div><div>I set up symlinks in ken-cc/bin us=
ing bin/8c as an alias for src/cmd/8c/o.out. Same thing for 8l.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>The command lines look something like:</div><div><br></div><div=
>8c tst.c # outputs tst.8</div><div>8l -o tst tst.8 # outputs tst</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Bottom line: you may be out of luck if you want to use ken-cc=
 as a general-purpose C compiler. It isn't. At all.</div><div><br></div><div=
>It's fun to toy with, though.</div><div><br></div><div>Go had vastly better=
 versions, but it seems they got ripped out recently. I think Go 1.3 may hav=
e had them, in which case you'd do something like:</div><div><br></div><div>=
go tool 6c tst.c</div><div>go tool 6l -o tst tst.6</div><div><br></div><div>=
As you can see, Go actually had a working 64-bit compiler.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I have yet to figure out why the hell symlinks to the compilers neve=
r get set up in the bin directory.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
If this is easy to do, I'd appreciate hearing how. If not, then I'm not<br>
going to worry about it. :-)<br>
<br>
Much thanks,<br>
<br>
Arnold<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Ryan</div><div dir=3D"ltr">[ERROR]: Your autotools build scri=
pts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something=E2=80=99s wrong.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><a href=3D"http://kirbyfan64.github.io/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://kirbyfan64.github.io/</a><div style=3D"display:inline-block;=
width:16px;height:16px">&nbsp;</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v>
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