From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) From: Anthony Sorace In-Reply-To: <20141125065952.60E7EB82A@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:52:45 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7CA9D934-B67A-488B-8203-B9F8037D208D@9srv.net> References: <7f11f16bfdb01c0041b0397a1cea04c5@proxima.alt.za> <7dc7cfb35a012dedc41828d03d5cdff3@lilly.quanstro.net> <4CB999B4-E9C6-4A74-B849-4003DD3D23D1@9srv.net> <22d498b89c3b4d2e50c1c5cc0e9d72c0@lilly.quanstro.net> <536D0D14-3391-426A-930F-2B92FFD734DB@9srv.net> <418789bb5bc4501ab70366014c15b965@lilly.quanstro.net> <0841E3F3-400C-4E19-811F-37B0595006BD@bitblocks.com> <4a5f7359099c5bdfc05c341e19f17490@lilly.quanstro.net> <20141125065952.60E7EB82A@mail.bitblocks.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2e2cb69e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:59 , Bakul Shah wrote: > As long as you run IP, you pay the other costs for any protocol. But there's plenty of cases where you don't need even that. See AOE, or = nonet from very early Plan 9. I'd like that back. > If you use TCP you benefit from its near universality, dealing > with long fat pipes, bandwidth adjustment, selective ack etc. Those are all valid reasons to have a tcp/ip stack. But what I (and I = believe Erik) say is that there's cases where that doesn't matter, and = it would be nice to have an alternative in those cases. I no that IL = makes a noticeable (if tiny) difference on my local network; I bet nonet = would be a marginally greater difference.