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Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:05:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <7E48DCCF430AE2E5CEE0B50FD3A8D361@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] p9f mention of 9front Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:05:52 -0700 From: unobe@cpan.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 905CE5D0-D477-11EB-8B7F-FD8818BA3BAF-09620299!pb-smtp2.pobox.com Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 94d2587a-d477-11eb-9c2c-c5047f64a78f Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNTIzZDZlOTA2YTE3YTdjYy1NMTlhY2E1ZWE1ODczMmM5M2I4NzAw?= =?UTF-8?B?MjAxPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M19aca5ea58732c93b8700201:1:aTGYLRsBgrv8bwpchgkFYFNkszDFiPH8wWPyKCgR6a4 Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: > i think it would help many new potential users if 9front was at least > mentioned (maybe near the link to 9legacy) To begin with, I only run 9front, a fork of Plan 9. In my experience it's just enough different from Plan 9 from Bell Labs that it cannot be grouped with any releases of Plan 9 from Bell Labs with just a series of patches (as can 9legacy). However, I hope that this situation doesn't remain and that whoever is in charge of the Foundation and 9front can work to figure out how to make it so there's one distribution. That might be a pipe dream. Maybe that's already happening behind the scenes but my inner pessimist is saying "No." There appear to be entrenched philosophical differences, but both "sides" agree that 9front is a fork and 9legacy isn't (one point of view is described @ http://9legacy.org/intro.html and the other is @ http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.1 ). So given that 9front is a fork, I don't think that the link to 9front should be mentioned next to 9legacy which is under the "Download" section. That appears to be mainly for Bell Labs-related releases. rmiller's rpi4 is really just implementing a kernel for rpi4, but otherwise the rest of the system is left untouched. I think (but do not know for certain) that 9legacy and the rpi4 source links will go away when there's a new release. Instead of under "Download", the link for 9front should at least be placed under the "Related Resources" section. In my understanding, the Foundation is limiting itself to focusing on what came out of Bell Labs and not different systems that have heavily modified it since. For example, I don't see HarveyOS, 9atom, Akaros, JehanneOS, NIX, Plan B, or Clive are linked either. Yet all of those I could see as being listed under "Related Resources". I actually like the listing and short descriptions found at http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.1 (under "The United States of Plan 9"). With a few minor wording changes, how about using that list? ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T523d6e906a17a7cc-M19aca= 5ea58732c93b8700201 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription