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Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie: life without rio
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Date: Mon,  6 Oct 2003 05:30:11 -0400
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    Pepper spray is too often ineffective to be one's
    defensive weapon of choice.

that even extends to guns.  the T may still be up for a 'while',
depending on a number of factors.

    It may be reasonable to expect police to be prepared with
    a range of options for level of force employed, but it's
    going to far to expect civilians to carry such an array of
    equipment.

you need escalation (in general).  pepper got me out of an L
shaped ambush one night -- stand off range; it wasn't amazingly
effective, but it worked [tactically].