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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Cc: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
Subject: Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)
Date: Tue,  9 Oct 2018 12:23:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7aa1f6be487cb771@orthanc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFSF3XOb5GW+XSYkMxXansuYRrLHeMq+hZvLr_gj7=tPQnxojA@mail.gmail.com>

hiro writes:

> > Dealing with the security issues isn't trivial

> what security issues?

Passing protocol buffer like objects around user space, that might
affect how the kernel talks to hardware.  E.g. IPsec offload into
hardware.  You don't want user-space messing with that sort of
context, but you want to tag it with the data buffer as it gets
passed up and down through the user/kernel gate.  Practical page
flipping needs a kernel-read-only context attached to the non-kernel
user data part of the page.  A quick solution is to pair pages, one
half of which the kernel owns, the other being the data payload.  But
that't just a start.  And that's all I'm saying: this might be an
approach to a better/faster I/O paradigm, but it needs interested
people to explore it ...


--lyndon



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-09 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-08  3:38 Lucio De Re
2018-10-08  4:29 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  7:20   ` hiro
2018-10-08 12:03     ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-08 17:20       ` hiro
2018-10-08 21:55         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08 23:03           ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09  0:14             ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09  1:34               ` Christopher Nielsen
2018-10-09  3:28               ` Lucio De Re
2018-10-09  8:23                 ` hiro
2018-10-09  9:45                 ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 17:50                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 18:57                     ` Ori Bernstein
2018-10-10  7:32                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-09 17:45               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 18:49                 ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:14                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 22:05                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-11 17:54                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 18:04                         ` Kurt H Maier
2018-10-11 19:23                         ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:24                           ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:25                             ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:26                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:39                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:44                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:47                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:57                                 ` hiro
2018-10-11 20:23                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10 10:42                     ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 19:23                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2018-10-09 19:34                     ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:36                       ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:40                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  0:18                       ` Dan Cross
2018-10-10  5:45                         ` hiro
2018-10-09 22:06                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-10  6:24                       ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-10 13:58                         ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:42                   ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09 19:09                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 19:30                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09  3:08             ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-09  3:16               ` [9fans] PDP11 David Arnold
2018-10-09  4:52                 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-09 11:58               ` [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!) Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 13:59                 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:22                 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10 10:38                   ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-10 23:15                     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 18:10                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 20:55                         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 21:03                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 14:02               ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-08  8:12   ` Nils M Holm
2018-10-08  9:12     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  8:09 ` Nils M Holm
2018-10-09 19:47 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 22:01 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 23:43 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  5:52   ` hiro
2018-10-10  8:13     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10  9:14       ` hiro
2018-10-10 13:59         ` Steve Simon
2018-10-10 21:32         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 17:43     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:11       ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:27         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:56           ` hiro
2018-10-10  5:57   ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:49 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 19:56 ` hiro
2018-10-10  0:15 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10  0:22 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10 16:14 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 17:34 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 21:54 ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-10 22:29   ` Kurt H Maier
2018-10-10 22:55     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 11:19       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2018-10-11  0:26   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11  1:03     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-14  9:46   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 10:37     ` hiro
2018-10-14 17:34       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 19:17         ` hiro
2018-10-15  9:29         ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-10 22:19 cinap_lenrek

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