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This can change with time along the way of ones life, sometimes not. The only way you can promote ideas you think are best for the future is through dialog, engaging _all_ different kinds of people in the conversation. There is a trend now which has came up thanks to the application of technology to the most stupid behavior of people in general, the so called social media. This allows people who doesn't do really anything for anyone to pretend to others and themselves that they are some kind of brave justice warriors, but acting in the most cowardly way, twisting words getting them out of context, making up _rules_ so they can justify attacks and insults to the next poor bastard. Yes, the next because there is going to be another one, always. Witnessing this on this mailing list makes me sick. One thing I like of old school computer science mailing list is that complete different people engage in conversations and work together no matter what political views these people have. There is room for some healthy discussion on these matters, and normally it ends by itself when boundaries are crossed. I've seen this discussions in other lists, and always -when no child(mental) are involved- there is an effort to keep a friendly atmosphere at the end. I've read the books of Ballesteros. Yes, say the name you coward. The only thing I can say about them is that they need a revision to a most correct English. Is not easy when you are not a native speaker. I can notice it when I read it, but I can make the same mistakes in this very same mail I'm writing. Maybe some native speaker could help on this. "support oppression" "maybe I have heard secondhand" "fight against right wing ideas" You see, I don't know you, either Ballesteros, and maybe I would agree more with the ideas you could _recite_ over a cup of coffee, but I'm pretty sure a conversation with Ballesteros (whatever ideas he has) would be more exiting and productive. This "Tell me only what I want to hear, or we'll ban you" crap... I think you are not bipolar, you are just another piece of Mr. Hankey. This list is becoming a South Park Christmas special... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJ_IMpq_pCvo > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 05:12:10 -0600 > From: mycroftiv 9gridchan > Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Subject: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation >=20 > Hi 9fans, Got some new ideas im excited about right now. > Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions' > book has political views that are not cool and support oppression > maybe I have heard secondhand. > We need a better book to introduce people to 9. > I'd like to see something created that talks about all forms of 9 and > of the ANTS variant especially since if im bipolar and spending my > money to try to help plan 9, im obviously also gonna be hyping my > stuff along with trying to fight against right wing ideas. > The cause to make plan 9 an accepting welcoming community for all > humans requires good information resources and support. > The funny-named organization I just thought up, The Flan 9 Poundation, > offers a bounty from me personally of at least $200 for producing this > content. The name is an obvious namespace pun. We want to work in a > friendly way with everyone but we also want good stuff and peace and > support for minority trans disabled mentally wacked out > counterculture. > > Peace and love and lets make Plan 9 amazing and full of rainbow love, > JenBen ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta19a0d2cb0bf4182-M3069d= 4cdbbd64a90c45af218 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription