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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] terminal types and photos?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:52:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7cf9cd7e97048602033c63bed8973292@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <116f90107ed4a05b196780472bf971ef@collyer.net>

>>True enough.  What is an Xscale anyway?  A faster ARM?

it's a family of Intel ARM5-based processors with
a (fairly) standard core and a range of application-specific
modules surrounding it.   in its PXA25x form, it's similar
to the Strongarm but many of the bugs are different, some of the
peripherals are different, and most of the registers are in different
places even when the bit values are the same.
at least they redesigned the DMA.  that A bit B bit dance was just confused.

the PXA250 didn't quite give the power or speed improvements
over SA1110 that were expected, though it's all right.
the PXA255 supposedly manages it.

if i sound a bit grumpy it's because some of the PXA
bugs are fairly fundamental.  for instance, if fancy clock switching
and sleep modes are big selling points for the device, and supposedly enabled by
setting a few bits, you'd expect them to work, wouldn't you?
especially since they were embarrassingly wrong in the StrongARM.
silly you.  if anything, the situation is worse.  the errors are decently
documented in the errata, but the fix is as fiddly
as ever, and bigger.  the cache might corrupt things.  still, it's not too
hard to get it to work.  in general, however, i've found that
IBM does a better job, with the smaller powerpcs.  i don't know why.  generally things work as
documented, the documentation is well-organised,
and the bugs in the errata tend to be understandably obscure.
fairly tidy architecturally as well.
my big IBM powerpc processor hasn't arrived yet so i've yet to see about that.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-15 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-15 10:43 Derek Peschel
2004-03-15 11:18 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-15 11:29   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-15 11:34     ` a
2004-03-15 12:07       ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-15 11:31   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-15 11:37     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-15 11:52       ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2004-03-15 17:40   ` Derek Peschel
2004-03-16  2:17 ` rog
2004-03-15 15:45 Richard C Bilson

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