[9fans] Best installation for a standalone desktop

[9fans] Best installation for a standalone desktop

[csant]

Hola,

I have been wondering what the best Plan 9 installation for a standalone  
desktop machine would be. Initially I had been thinking the default  
terminal installation was a good choice, but it seems to not require the  
user to actually log in - or is there a way on a standalone terminal to  
require authentication?

As far as I am understanding things, I need to configure the machine as a  
cpu and authentication server to use it as a standalone desktop machine  
where users need to authenticate to log in?

What is the reccomended installation for a standalone desktop machine?
/c

Re: [9fans] Best installation for a standalone desktop

[Gorka guardiola]

On 8/3/06, csant <csant@csant.info> wrote:
> Hola,
>
> I have been wondering what the best Plan 9 installation for a standalone
> desktop machine would be. Initially I had been thinking the default
> terminal installation was a good choice, but it seems to not require the
> user to actually log in - or is there a way on a standalone terminal to
> require authentication?

A terminal doesnt listen to services on the net, so authentication is
not an issue.
If what you want is simply to put a password to go to take a coffee, there is
a lock command, but I am not sure if it comes with the regular distribution.

>
> As far as I am understanding things, I need to configure the machine as a
> cpu and authentication server to use it as a standalone desktop machine
> where users need to authenticate to log in?

You need at least to set an authentication server if you want that
machine to listen to the network and authenticate users.

>
> What is the reccomended installation for a standalone desktop machine?
> /c
>

Depends on your needs/wants. For one user I'd say terminal. No remote
connection,
the owner booting the machine owns all of its resources. If you want
to login remotely
but are on a good network you may consider just using vnc to that machine though
it is not very secure and wastes your resources.

-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Best installation for a standalone desktop

["Nils O. Selåsdal"]

Gorka guardiola wrote:
> On 8/3/06, csant <csant@csant.info> wrote:
>> Hola,
>>
>> I have been wondering what the best Plan 9 installation for a standalone
>> desktop machine would be. Initially I had been thinking the default
>> terminal installation was a good choice, but it seems to not require the
>> user to actually log in - or is there a way on a standalone terminal to
>> require authentication?
> 
> A terminal doesnt listen to services on the net, so authentication is
> not an issue.
> If what you want is simply to put a password to go to take a coffee, 
> there is
> a lock command, but I am not sure if it comes with the regular 
> distribution.
> 
>>
>> As far as I am understanding things, I need to configure the machine as a
>> cpu and authentication server to use it as a standalone desktop machine
>> where users need to authenticate to log in?

Or provide a bios password if your box has such a thing.
"security" on desktop computers are often false security - with a
password protected login someone can boot another alternative OS
and access data at the drives anyway - not to mention steal the
harddrive.

Re: [9fans] Best installation for a standalone desktop

[Gorka guardiola]

On 8/3/06, "Nils O. Selåsdal" <noselasd@asgaard.homelinux.org> wrote:
> Gorka guardiola wrote:
> Or provide a bios password if your box has such a thing.
> "security" on desktop computers are often false security - with a
> password protected login someone can boot another alternative OS
> and access data at the drives anyway - not to mention steal the
> harddrive.
>
>
Or use a big stick to smash it. This is the "big stick principle".
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/papers/2006-JohnsonSta-guests.pdf

lock is just something to use  against curiosity
in your office when you go to the bathroom and for
that use it is sufficient.

-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat

[9fans] Plan9 on Microsoft Virtual PC 2004

[Drew Hohmann]

Hi All,
Has anyone had any luck getting plan9 to work in Virtual PC 2004?  It's 
the easiest way for me to get started with it, but on my 3.4GHz 
hyper-threaded P4, plan9 installs ok but then when it's finished and 
reboots I get constant disk errors (Virtual PC is setup with a fixed 
size 4GB hd, and I'm installing fossil+venturi).
On my 900MHz P3 (still using VirtualPC), plan9 installed ok, then I 
rebooted, logged in as glenda, created a new account, and entered 
fshalt.  fshalt sat their synchronizing, and 24hrs later was still 
sitting there busy synchronizing (Virtual PC was setup with a 6GB fixed 
size hd, and fossil+venturi was installed).

Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PC?  I'd really like to use 
fossil+venturi in a production system, so just installing fossil alone 
isn't worth it.

Thanks for any help.
Drew

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Microsoft Virtual PC 2004

[John Floren]

On 8/3/06, Drew Hohmann <drew@med-associates.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Has anyone had any luck getting plan9 to work in Virtual PC 2004?  It's
> the easiest way for me to get started with it, but on my 3.4GHz
> hyper-threaded P4, plan9 installs ok but then when it's finished and
> reboots I get constant disk errors (Virtual PC is setup with a fixed
> size 4GB hd, and I'm installing fossil+venturi).
> On my 900MHz P3 (still using VirtualPC), plan9 installed ok, then I
> rebooted, logged in as glenda, created a new account, and entered
> fshalt.  fshalt sat their synchronizing, and 24hrs later was still
> sitting there busy synchronizing (Virtual PC was setup with a 6GB fixed
> size hd, and fossil+venturi was installed).
>
> Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PC?  I'd really like to use
> fossil+venturi in a production system, so just installing fossil alone
> isn't worth it.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Drew
>

Well, I think the synchronizing problems with fshalt could be because
fossil dumps to venti at the first boot; this takes a very long time
and would take a lot longer on a virtual machine. I don't know if
fshalt stops the process; if it doesn't, I assume it would wait for
the dump to finish.

John
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