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From: John Floren <slawmaster@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
Date: Wed,  1 Jul 2009 14:13:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d3530220907011413j3ad2ef9bn336370142924c33c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60907011358w7662ff53je2304e7266c2fa8e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, David Leimbach<leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
>>
>> Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point.
>> I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but
>> acme's power comes from the rest of its design.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>
> Even in Emacs, I use the mouse because pointing the insertion point or
> cursor or whatever to where I need to type next is *much* faster than many
> repetitions of a keypress a lot of the time.
> Sometimes I do only need to travel up or down one line at a time though, and
> then the mouse seems like a waste of time to grab, so I just ctrl-n or
> ctrl-p in Emacs to get there (yes I don't use arrows unless I have to, and
> no this didn't feel natural for a long time).
> I suspect there's no perfect editor interface available.  All of them beat
> editing crap on my iPhone :-)
> Dave

I have a weird love-hate relationship with keybindings in Emacs. That
is, I wish they were slightly more Unix-ized instead of whatever
arbitrary junk they decided on back in the ITS days. Ctrl-U should
delete from your cursor to the start of the line, and Ctrl-H should do
a backspace, not open Help! The ^H problem is especially annoying on
my Slackware box, where I apparently can't hit the Backspace key in
console-mode Emacs or else I'll open the help window. Still, emacs
makes for a decent dev environment (it's where I write most of my Unix
code) and if I ever got motivated enough, it's nice that it has a
fully-featured Lisp environment for extending stuff.


John
-- 
"I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS
reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C,
Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba



  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-01 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-01  8:56 Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-01 14:31 ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-01 15:58 ` john
2009-07-01 16:46   ` Charles Forsyth
2009-07-01 18:53     ` J. R. Mauro
2009-07-01 19:24       ` blstuart
2009-07-01 19:38         ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-01 20:00           ` blstuart
2009-07-01 21:11             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-01 21:18               ` John Floren
2009-07-01 21:31                 ` Felipe Bichued
2009-07-01 21:33                 ` Dan Cross
2009-07-01 21:41                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-01 21:56                   ` John Floren
2009-07-01 23:49                     ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-01 22:08                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-01 22:23                   ` Connor Smith
2009-07-01 23:56                     ` john
2009-07-02  9:05                       ` Charles Forsyth
2009-07-02  9:29                     ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-02  9:25                   ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-01 23:47             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-02  9:25             ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-01 20:26         ` Noah Evans
2009-07-01 20:42           ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-01 22:07         ` Charles Forsyth
2009-07-01 22:30           ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-02  9:21         ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-01 19:24       ` Kris Maglione
2009-07-01 19:49         ` Russ Cox
2009-07-01 20:10           ` blstuart
2009-07-01 20:58           ` David Leimbach
2009-07-01 21:13             ` John Floren [this message]
2009-07-01 23:14               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-07-02  3:04               ` Uriel
2009-07-02  3:26                 ` Russ Cox
2009-07-02  3:27                   ` Russ Cox
2009-07-02  3:38                   ` Uriel
2009-07-02 15:18                   ` Russ Cox
2009-07-02  5:04                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-02  5:39                   ` Rob Pike
2009-07-02  5:57                     ` John Floren
2009-07-02 11:15                     ` Uriel
2009-07-01 21:30             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-02  1:47           ` Kris Maglione
2009-07-03 10:01           ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2009-07-03 12:34             ` sqweek
2009-07-03 17:41               ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-07-04  1:52                 ` sqweek
2009-07-04 10:12                   ` hiro
2009-07-06  9:10                     ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2009-07-04 16:16                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-06 10:32                   ` mattmobile
2009-07-06 11:05                     ` Gregory Pavelcak
2009-07-06 17:59                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-06 18:57                         ` cinap_lenrek
2009-07-06 20:33                           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-06 20:36                             ` John Floren
2009-07-06 21:08                               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-07-06 20:40                             ` Jason Catena
2009-07-06 22:28                             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-02  9:17         ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-04 17:49           ` ron minnich
2009-07-01 18:54   ` J. R. Mauro
2009-07-01 20:13 ` Jason Catena
2009-07-01 20:38   ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-01 21:17 ` yy
2009-07-01 22:20 ` roger peppe
     [not found]   ` <4A4C7CB9.4020804@proweb.co.uk>
2009-07-02  9:33     ` mattmobile
2009-07-02  9:19 ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-02  9:29 ` Aaron W. Hsu
2009-07-02 22:48 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-03  9:02 ` Aaron W. Hsu

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