From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60907011358w7662ff53je2304e7266c2fa8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090701192454.GA31691@jg.domain_not_set.invalid> <3e1162e60907011358w7662ff53je2304e7266c2fa8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:13:15 -0700 Message-ID: <7d3530220907011413j3ad2ef9bn336370142924c33c@mail.gmail.com> From: John Floren To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 12660f90-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> >> Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point. >> I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but >> acme's power comes from the rest of its design. >> >> Russ >> > > Even in Emacs, I use the mouse because pointing the insertion point or > cursor or whatever to where I need to type next is *much* faster than man= y > repetitions of a keypress a lot of the time. > Sometimes I do only need to travel up or down one line at a time though, = and > then the mouse seems like a waste of time to grab, so I just ctrl-n or > ctrl-p in Emacs to get there (yes I don't use arrows unless I have to, an= d > no this didn't feel natural for a long time). > I suspect there's no perfect editor interface available. =C2=A0All of the= m beat > editing crap on my iPhone :-) > Dave I have a weird love-hate relationship with keybindings in Emacs. That is, I wish they were slightly more Unix-ized instead of whatever arbitrary junk they decided on back in the ITS days. Ctrl-U should delete from your cursor to the start of the line, and Ctrl-H should do a backspace, not open Help! The ^H problem is especially annoying on my Slackware box, where I apparently can't hit the Backspace key in console-mode Emacs or else I'll open the help window. Still, emacs makes for a decent dev environment (it's where I write most of my Unix code) and if I ever got motivated enough, it's nice that it has a fully-featured Lisp environment for extending stuff. John --=20 "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba