From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:09:07 -0700 Message-ID: <7d3530220908030909k3d25bbd7ofaf77cf1aaee55c3@mail.gmail.com> From: John Floren To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description Topicbox-Message-UUID: 367860e0-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Why do we have to care about every self-righteous pronouncement from every minor project out there? Why should we have to put everything into a "Plan 9 context"? If you want to relate Plan 9 to Syllable, look at their forums--it seems to have the same sort of problems as Plan 9. Lacking in drivers (a quick look showed that they don't have PCMCIA, WLAN, or PPP support), new users coming in expecting it to be like other operating systems (I'm looking at you, Balwinder) or trolls calling it dead, and in general an apparent lack of people writing programs for it. Syllable looks to be POSIX-compliant (I think) which is probably how they have Quake most of the other ported programs. John On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: > Computer scientists will tell you that their operating systems and tools > are fine, because they like them to be complex. Companies will tell you > that their machines or devices are fine, because they like to control > them by hiding requisite device specifications and, or applications > notes, even though you own them. Yet, some people remember a few > machines from decades ago that were different. They got run over in the > gold rush, but they proved that it is possible to build much more > helpful machines. And if it was possible then, it is certainly possible > now, because the hardware that computers are built from has become much > more powerful. It's the software that is often not working in the > interest of the owner. In the /Syllable/ project, we are using this > power to help the owner instead of the scientists and the big companies. > > Please comment the above in a Plan 9 context. > -- > Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Registered Linu= x User: #229709 > Anu'z Linux@HOME (Unix Shoppe) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Machines: #1685= 73, 170593, 259192 > Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Plan9, T2, Arch= /Debian/FreeBSD/XP > Home: http://werc.homelinux.net/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visit: http://counte= r.li.org/ > > --=20 "Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike