From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [9fans] Design and Workmanship Message-ID: <81132473206F3A46A72BD6116E1A06AE479C67@black.aprote.com> From: "Tiit Lankots" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:59:37 +0300 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 361e6120-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 applause, no, standing ovations Hardly possible to express it more clearly. Almost any sane adult can be = taught good workmanship by trial and error; whereas good design indeed seems to be something, = mm, 'ethereal', that some have and some don't. Unfortunately the classic universitas-style CS = education (at least here in Estonia) tries to mold everybody into an designer slash scientist. = This per se isn't that bad, but in the process workmanship gets lost because nobody ever gets their = hands dirty. The net result is that alot of horrible code floats around, designed by people who = don't have it, programmed=20 by people who don't have it.=20 Tiit Lankots