From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <830C45B1-D1B5-4398-A25D-62D766D7DD82@mac.com> From: Pietro Gagliardi To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: <788982ab6dbaaf41faa4ab2b145cac75@csplan9.rit.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:35:43 -0400 References: <788982ab6dbaaf41faa4ab2b145cac75@csplan9.rit.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] sad commentary Topicbox-Message-UUID: d50e1b66-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Jul 1, 2008, at 9:32 AM, john@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: > Eric, I don't know what this "audio" thing you CS/CE type researchers > are using but us lowlifes just need Firefox and Excel before we can > use Plan 9. I'm afraid that until you can provide those, Joe Public > will never use Plan 9 and it will be forever doomed to run only on > supercomputers and storage systems and in research settings. -> WARNING: It's time to be brutally honest again. Take a deep breath. <- I'm 15. I run Plan 9 on a 20" iMac in the corner of my room at home. I hardly use Excel, and I don't usually browse the web on Plan 9 (or with Firefox - I use Safari on Mac). Yet I find myself using Plan 9 50% of my computing day. The commonest two things I do are coding and document typesetting. I like Plan 9's completeness of programming environment (I'd like to see Ruby beat lib*) and the authenticity of the typesetting tools (the original reason I started with Plan 9) was compelling. Yep. I'm a nerd. But I'm not in a CS/CR (at least not yet). And yes, I do normal stuff too. I browse the web. I listen to music. I watch movies. And unlike most people my age, I go to school and succeed. (I don't play sports because I have a vision disability.) Please reconsider your statement.