From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Jeff Sickel In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 11:31:01 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84A59510-4C11-44EB-AC27-F53BD44194F9@corpus-callosum.com> References: <35c5de340bd7283e907593e1ba64569f@gmx.de> <20130602193744.GA32587@dinah> <20131202082259.GA18890@dinah> <07d69aa884813549f2627680ea470392@mikro> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status) Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8dc8fdc0-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Contributions would be great, but we=92re swimming upstream to spawn and = die. The libbio changes are a good example. More than a month before the = release candidates started rolling out there was one patch = (https://codereview.appspot.com/14604047/) to try and reconcile the changes. I also added a patch that let us keep = our version of libbio (https://codereview.appspot.com/15750047/) and still = pick up the required four new functions that happen to be replicated = elsewhere. Neither patch is ideal, and neither has made progress in getting rolled = into the release. It takes time, more than effort, to keep up with the various Go = developer lists where changes actually take place. The case of libbio changes = happened at a time when no one in the Plan 9 community was really looking at the threads until it was too late to comment. Now we=92re caught trying to keep up again. So either we start posting codereview emails to the = 9fans list, or we find a better way to collaborate and make Plan 9 a first = tier target for Go. On Dec 2, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Skip Tavakkolian = wrote: > It would be very hard to replicate what Go can do for Plan 9 with = something else. There is a large and growing collection of packages = that make it possible to deal with the dizzying number of protocols and = APIs that are today's WWW. Another advantage of Go is that, like Limbo, = it enables the young enthusiastic 9fans to contribute meaningful work in = a shorter time that would otherwise be required (e.g. mastering C, = etc.). I think, in the long run, the pain of the teething problems are = worth the effort. >=20 > This current situation is not insurmountable; it seems that we have = enough people who are interested and a handful who are contributors that = we can make this happen with some coordination.