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charset=us-ascii Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 949712a0-198e-11eb-a1d9-8f81f0e4a1b9 Charles Forsyth writes: > It's a virtual city in Switzerland, which is famously neutral (hence Geneva Wes Kussmaul writes: > Instead, habitability of physical buildings is determined by building > codes and professional licensing that are the product of participatory > and duly constituted public authority. > > That's the role that Osmio sets out to play in non-physical digital > indoor spaces. Oh, I see. But if that's their goal, their homepage does a terrible job of describing/explaining it. That site (at least the English version of it) gives the impression that it's an actual (physical) city. That explains the confusion.