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From: cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: [9fans] Re: Plan 9 announcements on twitter
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 22:25:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86h7oz3n77.fsf@cmarib.ramside> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJQ9t7hiPT=7S68sfeNX5D2gr2YqRT2ezuUTMxguSBMDAE6suw@mail.gmail.com>

Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com> writes:

> But do we want a flock of 9front-wielding droids flooding the 9fans
> mailing list?

Good point.  Making something popular usually destroys it.  E-mail used
to be good, prior to The September That Never Ended.  Linux used to be
good, until about 2005.  The World Wide Web used to be good, too...
until it became popular.  Maybe we should keep Plan 9 a secret.  ;)

It would be nice if there was some way to translate between technology
intended for idiots and technology intended for experts.  Imagine if,
for example, every Android app automatically exported its functionality
over 9P.  The cell phone idiots would have all their flashy toasts and
swipes, but the apps would still be usable by command line nerds.

> PS: I concur with the late Dijkstra that the programming language(s)
> you learn shape(s) your ability to construct abstractions in your
> mind. We're kind of safe for as long as C remains the base language

That sounds like a variant of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis (which applies
to natural languages) as applied to computer languages.

> I had an electrical engineering friend, back at university, who used
> array subscripts in C because he couldn't get his head around
> pointers. Like me, his migration was from Pascal to C.

Pascal has pointers, too, and they make alot more sense than pointers in
C.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-05 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 21:36 [9fans] " Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13  3:50 ` Lucio De Re
2020-11-13  3:55   ` Don A. Bailey
2020-11-13  3:57     ` Calvin Morrison
2020-11-13  6:31       ` sirjofri+ml-9fans
2020-11-16  0:03       ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-11-13 18:45 ` [9fans] " Kim Shrier
2020-11-13 19:05   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13 19:09     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13 23:23     ` Pouya Tafti
2020-11-16  0:09 ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-12-03  3:09   ` cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-12-03  4:01     ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-03  7:25       ` Mart Zirnask
2020-12-03  8:50         ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-03  9:28           ` [9fans] " Bakul Shah
2020-12-04  9:37             ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-04 13:20               ` hiro
2020-12-05  9:12                 ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-05 22:25       ` cigar562hfsp952fans [this message]
2020-12-06  3:56         ` [9fans] " Lucio De Re
2020-12-07  4:45           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2020-12-06 19:52         ` Ethan Gardener
2020-12-07  4:28           ` Lucio De Re
2020-11-18  2:34 ` [9fans] " ori

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