From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <5d375e920710281143m5733e766xce46826611a7adf4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4724B007.6090908@gmail.com> <5d375e920710281143m5733e766xce46826611a7adf4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <875210C0-4D03-4599-B573-DDFB38B9C32A@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: [9fans] security Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:48:12 +0900 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: dda17dd2-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I vote to Uriel. On 2007/10/29, at 3:43, Uriel wrote: > > I'm still wondering what is the cost of having path be (/bin .) (other > than running scripts actually becoming much faster when access to . is > slow). > > For once I'm with don, just because perfect security is impossible > doesn't mean we should stop trying to get closer to it, specially when > the cost (as far as anyone has been able to tell in this case) is > negligible. > > What is next? we get rid of file permissions 'because your coworkers > can already pick the pile of papers lying on your desk so you should > trust them anyway. > > Seeing this kinds of arguments is quite sad, specially given how far > ahead plan9 is from every other system when it comes to *real* > *practical* security. > > And I'm an idiot, but this whole discussion has become quite stupid. > > uriel