From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Georg Lehner To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie question References: <20061205113553.GA9424@gonzo.telesystem.com> <82c890d00612050849h55520177g67817a7a77b55cb6@mail.gmail.com> <20061206103854.GA1080@gonzo> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 23:25:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20061206103854.GA1080@gonzo> (Markus Sonderegger's message of "Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:38:54 +0000") Message-ID: <8764cn8hsi.fsf@jorgito.magma.com.ni> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Message-UUID: ecaf61aa-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hello! I don't like the mouse very much either. I use it for placing windows and have learned just the basics for working with rio windows and acme until now. with "vt" you can put a rio terminal into "vt100" mode, and "ape/psh" gives you a Korn Shell, however without emacs and vi editing modes. Maybe you can get these modes back into psh and feel at home then. Markus Sonderegger writes: > Hello! > > Thank your for your answers. I've installed Plan9 and tryed rio and > you're right it's much better than other guis. But it absolut not suits > my workstyle. Normaly I doesen't use the mouse. > > What's the idea behind the desicion to have no console? I've read most > of the documention papgers but can't figure it out. ... The kernel has a minimal console. It lacks an interrupt key for job control. rio uses the Del key for job control. I think it is better to let a userspace application do job control, and not to code functionality for an interrupt key into the kernel. If I remember correctly, the vt220 terminals had a mode for switching sessions, similar to the virtual consoles in Linux. With some programming effort it may be possible to open one single maximized window at startup in rio, with a vt220 emulation and a similar functionality. Jorge-Le=F3n