[9fans] auth server hardware

[9fans] auth server hardware

[Akshat Kumar]

any suggestions for modern, small, quiet, and call
hardware for a Plan 9 auth server (and auth only -
should only need to run secstored and have a small
CF or SATADOM attached)?

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[Steve Simon]

> any suggestions for modern, small, quiet, and call
> hardware for a Plan 9 auth server.

 I believe the sheevaplug is out as we have no nand flash driver,
some people on here use sorkris boards which have IDE interfaces.
there are also IDE to compact flash adapters which completely remove
the need for rotating disks.

http://www.soekris.com/
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit-us.aspx

-Steve

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[erik quanstrom]

>  I believe the sheevaplug is out as we have no nand flash driver,
> some people on here use sorkris boards which have IDE interfaces.
> there are also IDE to compact flash adapters which completely remove
> the need for rotating disks.
>
> http://www.soekris.com/
> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit-us.aspx

$213+$11 for a 233 Mhz machine with marginal 100mbit ethernet,
a funky and difficult bios, poor availibility? i think the world has
passed soekris by.  an atom motherboard + cheep chassis will come
in at about $200.

i believe that http://inferno-kirkwood.googlecode.com/hg/
has some more interesting stuff for those processors.  but then
again, it's not as easy to get as a random atom motherboard.

- erik

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[geoff]

Actually we've had a nand flash driver for the plugs for a while
and I've been using it on the Guruplug.

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[Akshat Kumar]

So, Plan 9 with storage works on the Guruplug?
I might grab one of those, then... are the kernel
sources, proper loader, and some hints for plan9.ini
configuration, all available in the stock Plan 9
distribution?

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM,  <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> Actually we've had a nand flash driver for the plugs for a while
> and I've been using it on the Guruplug.
>
>

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[Jacob Todd]

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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:37:07AM -0700, Akshat Kumar wrote:
> So, Plan 9 with storage works on the Guruplug?
> I might grab one of those, then... are the kernel
> sources, proper loader, and some hints for plan9.ini
> configuration, all available in the stock Plan 9
> distribution?
Yes, see booting(8) and /sys/src/9/kw/plug.words.

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Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[erik quanstrom]

> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:37:07AM -0700, Akshat Kumar wrote:
> > So, Plan 9 with storage works on the Guruplug?
> > I might grab one of those, then... are the kernel
> > sources, proper loader, and some hints for plan9.ini
> > configuration, all available in the stock Plan 9
> > distribution?
> Yes, see booting(8) and /sys/src/9/kw/plug.words.

careful.  there's no sata driver at this point.
just a flash driver.  of course, you can boot
from aoe.

- erik

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[jake]

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If I had a usb drive that was formatted with fossil or kfs,
could I use that as the file system for the sheevaplug?

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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] auth server hardware
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:33:15 -0400
Message-ID: <22bd45cdec738d0e8791528e7596dfe0@ladd.quanstro.net>

> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:37:07AM -0700, Akshat Kumar wrote:
> > So, Plan 9 with storage works on the Guruplug?
> > I might grab one of those, then... are the kernel
> > sources, proper loader, and some hints for plan9.ini
> > configuration, all available in the stock Plan 9
> > distribution?
> Yes, see booting(8) and /sys/src/9/kw/plug.words.

careful.  there's no sata driver at this point.
just a flash driver.  of course, you can boot
from aoe.

- erik

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[erik quanstrom]

On Tue Jul 27 14:52:54 EDT 2010, jake@9srv.net wrote:
> If I had a usb drive that was formatted with fossil or kfs,
> could I use that as the file system for the sheevaplug?

in theory.  but if the port bobbles, you'll have heartache.
see:

http://9fans.net/archive/2010/03/306
http://9fans.net/archive/2010/03/298

it may be that this is a problem one only sees with my
hardware, and not a regular spinning disk.

- erik

Re: [9fans] auth server hardware

[Mateusz Jan Przybylski]

There used to be a series of HP thin clients, numbered like T5500 and similar.
Those are in fact small PCs, with Ethernet, VGA, four USBs, one PS/2 and even
serial & parallel ports(!), powered by either VIA or Transmeta CPUs (clocked
at 700...1000MHz), with built-in PATA flash drive around 256MB and about as
much of RAM. They run completely quiet and quite cool. They are of size of
average router.

They are dirt cheap those days.

--
Mateusz Jan Przybylski


``One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.''