From: Eris Discordia <eris.discordia@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] sad commentary
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:02:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88F134A3A25A8FF1B2F6BE86@F74D39FA044AA309EAEA14B9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32d987d50807010241t34c6470obbe22d03499f14a0@mail.gmail.com>
The meat of this post:
1. Since these series of postings are considered, for some reason
incomprehensible to me, "trolling" I'll simply stop posting. Good luck to
y'all.
2. The core point which still hasn't gone to a single 9fans' head is that
you either comply with public demand or stop asking for public recognition.
And the public is not "a bunch of idiots." This thread's original post
asked why Plan 9 isn't recommended on Slashdot even for tasks it seems to
be good at. I responded with my opinion: Plan 9 in its current form is and
will always remain a "niche" OS, with a rather tight niche.
3. More than a few 9fans tried to ridicule me. Such attitude won't get them
very far I assure them, even if they have a valid message to convey. I hope
they've at least had a good laugh--that makes me feel the whole affair
wasn't a waste of time.
4. The apple with καλλιστι on it is totally Russ', for he posted
the most sensible response. Thank you Russ.
5. Oh, and that thing on (4) is the Discordian transliteration of whatever
was written on the apple. Greek text input to a mail client on Windows.
Check if you can read it on the "mother of UTF-8." If you do you're
"almost" there, if you don't...
----------------------------------------
--On Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:41 AM +0000 "Federico G. Benavento"
<benavento@gmail.com> wrote:
> eris,
>
> stop trolling and sending apples to the parties you're not invited.
>
> --
> Federico G. Benavento
>
> (sent with opera 9.5 via linuxemu+equis)
>
>
Challenging is not trolling, but I'll keep quiet if it suits you better.
----------------------------------------
--On Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:19 PM +0200 hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> Haha, sarcasm at it's finest.
> Eris, you are my hero.
>
> --
> hiro
>
>
Is "that" sarcastic, too? I hope not, for that'd break my heart.
----------------------------------------
--On Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:06 AM -0400 cummij@rpi.edu wrote:
>> lowlifes like me will use your system if it
>> can Get Their Job Done (tm) or they'll migrate to another system that
>> can. They won't bother coding.
>
> then migrate, already ...
>
> john
>
I did. So did many others. Plan 9's loss, though I don't expect "you" to
admit it.
----------------------------------------
--On Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:36 PM -0300 Iruata Souza
<iru.muzgo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Eris Discordia <eris.discordia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> All these could "theoretically" become "supported" (that's different from
>> being "included") in an OS if it manages to gather enough public
>> momentum. Without that you can do only your "serious" stuff which
>> excludes quite some of the "good" stuff. Public momentum comes from
>> providing "the public" with enough incentive so that a small portion of
>> that public actually writes what the rest will need.
>>
> like you do with your system, right?
I don't. I've got no "system." Others do and others did, and they succeeded
and they have larger happier user bases. That, of course, was never
"intended" for Plan 9 you seem to imply.
>> Incidentally, I find it a bit hypocritical to do "research" (read: find
>> out how a system can Get New Jobs Done (tm)) on a system but turn to
>> another whenever one actually needs to Get Something Done (tm).
>>
> sorry if I can't write a flash player in two minutes. it won't happen
> again.
Last chance for you! Seriously though, you had over two decades to first
catch "down" and then catch "up" and you didn't. It wasn't your intention
they say.
----------------------------------------
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-01 22:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <A5F2B9F56DBEDAA4DDA2E579@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 7:23 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-01 8:45 ` Eris Discordia
[not found] ` <E65EC37F521210B28673D390@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 9:41 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-07-01 10:40 ` Andrés Domínguez
2008-07-01 22:02 ` Eris Discordia [this message]
2008-07-01 22:40 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-01 23:43 ` a
2008-07-02 5:44 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-07-02 6:19 ` John Waters
[not found] <970551641B57BC6070158BA7@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 8:38 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-07-01 20:36 ` Iruata Souza
[not found] <6AB24A226A77E17024CF16B9@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 20:22 ` Iruata Souza
2008-07-01 20:30 ` Iruata Souza
[not found] <6653239E78712E5C0992CFE3@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 12:49 ` ron minnich
2008-07-01 20:40 ` Iruata Souza
2008-07-01 21:40 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-01 8:42 Eris Discordia
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-01 8:28 Eris Discordia
2008-07-01 8:25 Eris Discordia
2008-07-02 4:52 ` lucio
2008-07-02 5:21 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-07-02 6:09 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-02 18:58 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-07-02 19:14 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-02 21:20 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-07-03 0:19 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-07-02 9:28 ` lucio
2008-07-02 17:55 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-02 12:04 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-03 0:13 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-07-03 0:17 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-07-03 2:16 ` Adrian Tritschler
2008-07-03 8:43 ` Robert Raschke
2008-07-03 10:25 ` Steve Simon
2008-07-03 12:27 ` dave.l
2008-07-03 18:12 ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-07-05 17:14 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-07-05 17:43 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-07-03 9:39 ` Rodolfo kix García
2008-07-04 11:26 ` matt
2008-07-04 10:58 ` matt
2008-07-01 7:47 Eris Discordia
2008-07-01 13:15 ` john
2008-07-01 7:04 Eris Discordia
2008-07-01 14:06 ` cummij
2008-07-01 14:16 ` ron minnich
2008-07-01 6:47 Eris Discordia
2008-07-01 7:42 ` John Stalker
2008-07-01 13:24 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-01 13:32 ` john
2008-07-01 21:35 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-07-01 21:53 ` Dan Cross
2008-07-01 22:17 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-07-01 21:55 ` john
2008-07-01 17:44 ` Russ Cox
[not found] <B7A30661A94738A2B9BE1EA7@172.16.10.200>
2008-06-30 23:02 ` Uriel
2008-06-30 22:32 Eris Discordia
2008-06-30 22:13 Eris Discordia
2008-06-30 22:48 ` Rob Pike
2008-06-30 23:17 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-06-30 23:28 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-07-01 6:53 ` bblochl
2008-07-01 9:21 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-07-01 13:50 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-01 14:10 ` hiro
2008-07-01 15:20 ` Uriel
2008-07-01 19:21 ` bblochl
2008-07-01 22:55 ` Jack Johnson
2008-07-01 12:44 ` ron minnich
2008-07-01 13:35 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-01 13:47 ` john
2008-07-01 13:59 ` John Waters
2008-07-01 14:03 ` David Leimbach
2008-06-30 22:56 ` erik quanstrom
2008-06-30 23:07 ` a
2008-06-30 23:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-07-01 8:01 ` Eris Discordia
[not found] ` <EBDCEA43BFC1C5EE4070BC1E@172.16.10.224>
2008-07-01 20:33 ` Iruata Souza
2008-07-02 8:38 ` DaveL
2008-06-30 21:45 Eris Discordia
2008-07-01 15:40 ` michael block
2008-06-30 19:12 Eris Discordia
2008-06-30 20:01 ` ron minnich
2008-06-30 21:20 ` Eris Discordia
2008-06-30 23:23 ` Iruata Souza
2008-07-01 0:22 ` ron minnich
2008-07-01 10:52 ` John Waters
2008-07-01 11:19 ` hiro
2008-06-30 20:11 ` michael block
2008-06-30 20:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-06-30 20:55 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-06-30 23:06 ` Bakul Shah
2008-06-30 23:21 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-06-30 23:22 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-07-01 9:37 ` Stefan Groß
2008-06-30 14:55 erik quanstrom
2008-06-30 15:36 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-06-30 17:26 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 17:06 ` Steven D. Vormwald
2008-06-30 17:34 ` john
2008-06-30 18:33 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-06-30 18:47 ` Tom Lieber
2008-06-30 23:28 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 18:16 ` John Stalker
2008-06-30 18:27 ` a
2008-07-02 6:48 ` sqweek
2008-07-02 7:39 ` gdiaz
2008-07-02 12:17 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-02 12:35 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-22 14:16 ` sqweek
2008-07-22 14:47 ` Kernel Panic
2008-07-22 14:50 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-22 15:50 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-22 15:50 ` sqweek
2008-07-22 15:46 ` C H Forsyth
2008-06-30 21:19 ` erik quanstrom
2008-06-30 2:21 erik quanstrom
2008-06-30 2:32 ` john
2008-06-30 3:10 ` Tim Wiess
2008-06-30 5:24 ` underspecified
2008-06-30 6:57 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-06-30 7:50 ` John Waters
2008-06-30 8:03 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-06-30 2:38 ` Uriel
2008-06-30 12:06 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 13:46 ` bblochl
2008-06-30 17:27 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 13:48 ` bblochl
2008-06-30 13:52 ` john
2008-06-30 14:00 ` bblochl
2008-06-30 14:07 ` john
2008-06-30 17:23 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 17:21 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-06-30 17:34 ` ron minnich
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=88F134A3A25A8FF1B2F6BE86@F74D39FA044AA309EAEA14B9 \
--to=eris.discordia@gmail.com \
--cc=9fans@9fans.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).