From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <89041d55144820abcf9677ae89f7c236@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:12:17 +0200 From: lucio@proxima.alt.za In-Reply-To: <5151ed5c8ec206cffdbd822b18718c81@lilly.quanstro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] 9 Atom - installation troubles Topicbox-Message-UUID: 34c1175c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > it's sort of the good fight, but life is short and spamming is too easy. > so i built a few tools to go from 50,000 spams/day down to 0.2. all > the tools are published in 9atom. I have different priorities and somebody needs to pick up the garbage sometimes. I'm being paid (just-just enough to keep me from having to migrate back to a big city) to build some weaponry so spamming is a little less rewarding. Plan 9 is an excellent platform to develop on and using Go means I can deliver the result on any platform my principals may pick. That the service runs faster than expected on Plan 9 (I'm withholding the fact that it would run even faster on more conventional platforms, I can honestly claim that I have not checked this) is good publicity for Plan 9 and motivates me a little more. If I get inspired to use some Plan 9 paradigms that will give Plan 9 even more exposure, all the better, but my efforts are a bit restricted at the moment because Go takes some shedding of bad habits to acquire new (hopefully less "bas") habits. The final outcome may drift quite far from the currently very humble beginnings. Nupas and everything it gave birth to are definitely on my list of tools I need to explore in my quest. Lucio. PS: my personal opinion is that there are sufficiently many and sufficiently pissed off people out there to give each spammer some pause for thought. The tooling I'm concentrating on, rather than trim traffic down, targets making spammers aware of the negative public opinion their efforts generate, each spammer's identity being publicly revealed. Existing legislation is being leveraged to threaten spammers, but more importantly to shelter the naming and shaming from legal challenge. All this requires active response to spamming, rather than sweeping under the carpet action. Of course, many think this is pie-in-the sky stuff, but I am looking at it as empowering the victims.