From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: jas@corpus-callosum.com, 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] a question of file and the history of magic
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:20:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <893336fd0a9673f20c7468d7f6339554@quanstro.net> (raw)
> In a sense, the question is more about the historical change and/or
> adoption of a new file command for Plan 9 that doesn't use a magic
> file for references. Why opt out of a magic file other than the
> obvious performance hit of scanning it each run? Is it worth
> repeating the old forms that used magic, or has anyone in the Plan 9
> community already improved upon the idea and introduced a new, more
> adaptable tool?
what is the upside to an external magic file? as you've shown, you
can add a file type in 1 line of code. while the external magic file
isn't c, i would argue that it's still code.
the disadvantage is that you need to write a parser for yet another
file format. it turns out that linux file's maintainers felt that a text file
wasn't good enough so they implemented a magic compiler. i really
don't understand the logic behind the compiler, since it would seem
to trade reduced cpu cycles for increased i/o. that would seem to be
a terrible trade off these days.
; wc magic magic.mgc
13469 69850 484372 magic
1301 17997 1062400 magic.mgc # compiled version
the source is pretty big, too:
; wc -l ffile-4.20/src/*.[ch]|grep total
9273 total
according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(Unix)),
system v introduced the external magic file. i don't think that system v
was in anyway an ancestor of plan 9. but i don't know anything of
the history of plan 9 file.
- erik
next reply other threads:[~2008-07-06 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-06 21:20 erik quanstrom [this message]
2008-07-06 21:59 ` Brantley Coile
2008-07-09 0:30 ` [9fans] a question of file and the history of magic^H^H^H^H^HUNIX Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-07-06 22:31 ` [9fans] a question of file and the history of magic Bakul Shah
2008-07-06 22:44 ` Charles Forsyth
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2008-07-07 8:58 Harri Haataja
2008-07-11 16:21 ` Dan Cross
2008-07-06 23:45 geoff
2008-07-06 19:30 erik quanstrom
2008-07-06 21:00 ` Jeff Sickel
2008-07-06 18:16 Jeff Sickel
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