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From: Ethan Grammatikidis <eekee57@fastmail.fm>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:59:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8AB033EC-13D4-4BD3-A70F-B9CE7D724238@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32d987d51003281236m7a890b0dkaf4de23191fa3d47@mail.gmail.com>

On 28 Mar 2010, at 20:36, Federico G. Benavento wrote:
> I think it all comes down to simplicity, you install the app, you
> run the
> app, it looks like some of you would like to add complexity just
> because
> you think it's the right thing to do.


Well.. it's experience with Linux (and, I suppose, BSD). If you
install stuff from source it's not long before you almost have no idea
what's in /usr/local. You might remember what you installed, but there
will be a lot of binaries with names that just don't make sense or
correlate to anything. Good luck uninstalling a package or cleaning up
when you upgrade one and find the new version doesn't install all the
same files so you're left with, for example, stray header files which
could screw up future compiles. Actually I use git on /usr/local which
both gives me an uninstall option and (with some rather long options)
a list of files installed with each commit. "All" I have to do is
remember to commit after each make install.

I don't know if history came up because venti could offer similar to
what I use git for, but that would only work if you installed only one
package per day. Now on Gnunix if you can get an app going with just
one package install you can call yourself lucky!

--
Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it.
-- Alan Perlis







  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-28 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-25 11:49 tlaronde
2010-03-25 13:37 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 15:31   ` tlaronde
2010-03-25 15:36     ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26  1:07       ` EBo
2010-03-25 16:03     ` Steve Simon
2010-03-25 18:11   ` lucio
2010-03-25 19:05     ` Tim Newsham
2010-03-25 19:36       ` lucio
2010-03-25 19:42         ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26  0:52   ` EBo
2010-03-26  1:36     ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-26  2:05       ` ron minnich
2010-03-26  5:02       ` EBo
2010-03-26  5:52         ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-26 13:33           ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26  5:59         ` Anthony Sorace
2010-03-26  6:09           ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-26  6:12           ` EBo
2010-03-26  6:24             ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-26  7:08               ` EBo
2010-03-26 13:24                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 13:09           ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 16:45         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 16:55           ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 17:00             ` ron minnich
2010-03-26 17:12               ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 17:10             ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 17:13               ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 17:15                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 17:21                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 17:31                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 17:36                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 17:56                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 18:44                           ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 18:57                             ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 21:17                             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-26 21:30                               ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 21:49                                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-26 17:31                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-26 17:34                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 21:15                     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-26 21:32                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 22:37                         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-27  4:32                           ` lucio
2010-03-27 17:39                           ` Tim Newsham
2010-03-27 22:37                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-26 16:56           ` ron minnich
2010-03-26 17:05             ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-26 21:50             ` tlaronde
2010-03-27  4:15               ` lucio
2010-03-27  7:53                 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-27  8:40                   ` lucio
2010-03-27  9:30                     ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-27 13:41                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-27 13:08                   ` Anthony Sorace
2010-03-27 11:20                 ` tlaronde
2010-03-28 13:17               ` [9fans] Man pages for add-ons: pax? tlaronde
2010-03-28 13:20                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-28 18:39                 ` hiro
2010-03-26 17:05           ` [9fans] Man pages for add-ons Anthony Sorace
2010-03-26 20:21         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-27 16:46           ` Tim Newsham
2010-03-27 16:54             ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-27 17:58               ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-27 18:09                 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found]                   ` <f4d8fa41003271132k7d7e839fk78999c75ddf4b6af@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-27 18:33                     ` hiro
2010-03-27 23:45               ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-28  0:39                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-27 23:56               ` Tim Newsham
2010-03-28  0:45                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-28  0:52                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-28  0:55                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-28  1:02                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-28 19:06               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-28 19:36                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-28 20:04                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-28 22:59                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis [this message]
2010-03-28 23:28                     ` hiro
2010-03-29  0:59                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-29  2:11                         ` Iruata Souza
2010-03-29  9:07                           ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-29 11:29                             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-29 12:14                               ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-29 12:41                                 ` Connor Lane Smith
2010-03-29 13:05                                   ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-29 13:23                                     ` Connor Lane Smith
2010-03-29 13:58                                       ` Steve Simon
2010-03-29 19:29                                 ` Georg Lehner
2010-03-29 22:35                                   ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-29 14:14                               ` blstuart
2010-03-29  1:00                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-27 17:49             ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-28 18:56             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-28 20:09               ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-28 21:27           ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-25 14:07 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-25 15:48   ` tlaronde
2010-03-26  2:02 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-03-26  2:04   ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-29 10:12 Hiro
2010-03-29 12:33 Hiro

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