From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <8AB033EC-13D4-4BD3-A70F-B9CE7D724238@fastmail.fm> From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <32d987d51003281236m7a890b0dkaf4de23191fa3d47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:59:57 +0100 References: <20100325114948.GA7249@polynum.com> <31C84C15-2EE3-46CA-BE9F-48F20886ADF7@fastmail.fm> <202b36ec0f14adf4b09e53052147ccc8@brasstown.quanstro.net> <11721B64-8041-4D96-94E3-49472F941C38@fastmail.fm> <32d987d51003281236m7a890b0dkaf4de23191fa3d47@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons Topicbox-Message-UUID: f72eb1fe-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 28 Mar 2010, at 20:36, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > I think it all comes down to simplicity, you install the app, you > run the > app, it looks like some of you would like to add complexity just > because > you think it's the right thing to do. Well.. it's experience with Linux (and, I suppose, BSD). If you install stuff from source it's not long before you almost have no idea what's in /usr/local. You might remember what you installed, but there will be a lot of binaries with names that just don't make sense or correlate to anything. Good luck uninstalling a package or cleaning up when you upgrade one and find the new version doesn't install all the same files so you're left with, for example, stray header files which could screw up future compiles. Actually I use git on /usr/local which both gives me an uninstall option and (with some rather long options) a list of files installed with each commit. "All" I have to do is remember to commit after each make install. I don't know if history came up because venti could offer similar to what I use git for, but that would only work if you installed only one package per day. Now on Gnunix if you can get an app going with just one package install you can call yourself lucky! -- Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis