[9fans] deroff, pic

[9fans] deroff, pic

[Pietro Gagliardi]

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1) Should deroff -w interpret curly quotes (“”)? Right now it doesn't,
so spell is treating any words with either character as spelling errors.
2) Some suggestions to pic: a rounded rectangle (groff has an arc
attribute), lines to connect the ends of an arc to its effective
center (useful for making pie charts), a fill color attribute. Any
objections?

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Re: [9fans] deroff, pic

[erik quanstrom]

> 1) Should deroff -w interpret curly quotes (“”)? Right now it doesn't,
> so spell is treating any words with either character as spelling errors.

; 9diff deroff.c
/n/sources/plan9//sys/src/cmd/deroff.c:963,968 - deroff.c:963,970
  		return chars[c];
  	switch(c){
  	case 0x2013: case 0x2014:	/* en dash, em dash */
+ 	case L'“':
+ 	case L'”':
  		return SPECIAL;
  	}
  	return EXTENDED;

- erik

Re: [9fans] deroff, pic

[cej]

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2) Some suggestions to pic: a rounded rectangle (groff has an arc  
attribute), lines to connect the ends of an arc to its effective  
center (useful for making pie charts), a fill color attribute. Any  
objections?

Would love to see it implemented. Please, consider also PS fill pattern.
Cross fingers,

++pac

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Re: [9fans] deroff, pic

[Russ Cox]

It might also be worth pointing out that troff does just fine with `` and ''
as curly quotes, so there's not a lot of need to use the Unicode ones.
In fact, in the default fonts I find that the Unicode ones don't typeset
particularly well -- they are too compressed.

So a more complete solution is just not to use them.

Russ

Re: [9fans] deroff, pic

[erik quanstrom]

> It might also be worth pointing out that troff does just fine with `` and ''
> as curly quotes, so there's not a lot of need to use the Unicode ones.
> In fact, in the default fonts I find that the Unicode ones don't typeset
> particularly well -- they are too compressed.
>
> So a more complete solution is just not to use them.

however, that's not a solution for documents which have used them.

and in theory, “ and ” have been specially crafted by the font designer,
taking into consideration all those fine details that require fonts to
be hand-crafted and not built by computers.  (knuth's cmrm font has
” at 042 and “ at 0134, the texbook, appendix f, p. 427.)

wouldn't the best fix for poorly designed fonts be ... a better font?
at least in theory.

- erik