From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paschke Christoph In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:58:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8CC7B690-877C-40EC-A8F7-FD27875B68E4@me.com> References: To: Fans Bell Labs of the OS Plan 9 from <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] GSoC 2012 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 69e12906-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Here is the italian "hell tutorial" I used with google translator. I let = google translate it to german but I see, that it also translate to = english with HELL etc. http://basile.web.cs.unibo.it/inferno/ This was a quite good getting starting guide what I still found in = english: http://www.resc.rdg.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/Resc/InfernoTutorial With this 2 documents I got it run. How I came to this Plan 9 base? It's also funny. I was looking for an efficient GUI and I found some = from a canadian programer. It was written in Ada and bound to the = ncurses Library in C. So, you can used it in Linux, it has 600 function, = really a big library and the text style matching my needs. But I = watching out for a more distributed app concept, for a GUI that is = distributed architecture, for application framework under witch = distributed apps can reside etc. This distributed concept I had in mind = and I asking the canadian developer of his GUI how it will be such way, = it will not get work such way, I wish it would exist something that each = driver and ressource can be connected with like a file so the GUI would = be fine to get distributed. I watching other Windowing solutions and find the name Rio. We have a = parrot and it's name is Rio and I called my 8 year old daughter for fun: = Oh, I found my solution, Rio! =46rom Rio I found to Plan 9 and from that place I recognized that this = distributed OS and everything is a file was exactly that discussion I = had before with the canadian developer of the Ada GUI. So other's also = had that idea once a time. And when I see the name Bell Labs, Kernighan, = Denis Richie, I know: Ok, this is something more than only a cloud that = comes and goes. I see the little mem resources it needs and some other = things and quite happy about such base already existing. Who I came to inferno? I think it was the name Denis Richie who was = involved in this project and it was the good entry website of vitanuova. = It gives with this picture some idea of a working system, kind of a = product, whereas the Plan 9 Webpage is really also like a university = research project. So, I for me understand, that Inferno is something for = normal user and Plan 9 is something for students and university. Maybe = I'm wrong, but such my feeling. And so I got forward ... Am 16.03.2012 um 02:32 schrieb Jerome Ibanes: > That's funny, could you point me to this document? >=20 >=20 > J. >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paschke Christoph > Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM > Subject: [9fans] GSoC 2012 > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> >=20 >=20 > Sure, a project around a good installer is quite useful that people > not get frustrated already at the beginning in the trial of a new > system. And doing a good installer is sure code based. >=20 > I started with Inferno at emu and this was still a quite easy way > although the installation description was not good. I got it to work > on my Mac after reading some more letters and descriptions. It was > quite funny how I got it run. I found an italian installation > description and use the google translator. But the google translator > tell me: "How to install the hell" because Inferno is translated with > HELL. And when the translator talk about Limbo (what is in english > Limbus pre-hell), he said such things like: "This is the folder you > find the pre-hell" But with this hell and pre-hell (limbus) > translation I got the installation done ;-) > Sure, this is not the classical way what believe an operating system > is installed. But if you install an "Inferno" you need expect > everything, isn't it. After the installation I thought: Not so bad > hell, now it's running. And pre-hell is already waiting to get > inspected.