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Date: Sat,  8 Nov 2008 15:37:22 -0800
From: Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com>
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Subject: Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?
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On Nov 8, 2008, at 3:11 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>> Even as a potential substitute for ftp webdav is a farce.  Speaking
>>> from personal experience, the amount of XML you need to generate
>>> for a
>>> directory listing is at least 20 times the size of the equivalent
>>> ftp
>>> listing, and then you twiddle your thumbs waiting for the webdav
>>> client to parse and render it.
>>
>> But think about this: why would you care if you have this:
>>     http://noedler.de/projekte/wdfs/
>>
>> Why would anyone care about what's getting pushed to the
>> wire?
>
> i think most everyone here inderstands why one would.

See that's the problem. I was asking for the arguments that might
help me convince somebody who hasn't ever been exposed
to Plan9/Inferno OSes (and hasn't ever been on this list) to
consider 9P (as a protocol) to be added (as a fronted) to a major
service that Sun wants to roll out. Personally, I ran  out of
ammo.

You're now telling me that  such a knowledge can only be had via the
process of osmosis. That there are no arguments to be used.
That's fair. This process of osmosis is what makes me read this
list to begin with.

But wouldn't you agree, that in all fairness, if the only people who
want to
see 9P being spoken by any piece of software or hardware are the ones
subscribed to the list -- it is not worth implementing?

> let's let this thread die in peace.


Sure. I'm about to write a reply to the question of requirements
and I would be happy to take the answers off the list.

Sorry to be a bother.

Thanks,
Roman.