Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[erik quanstrom]

yes.  the instructions are not implemented.  unfortunately abort()
was called without flushing the output, so the error message wasn't
printed.

; diffy -c /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c
/n/dump/2012/0509/sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,265 - /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,266
  {
  	Bprint(bioout, "undefined instruction trap pc #%lux inst %.8lux class %d\n",
  		reg.r[REGPC], inst, reg.class);
+ Bflush(bioout);
  abort();
  	longjmp(errjmp, 0);
  }
; 5i 5.armfloat
5i
:r
undefined instruction trap pc #102c inst ed9b0100 class 92
5i 12535: suicide: sys: trap: fault read addr=0x0 pc=0xb2c5

- erik

[9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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>From 9vx.OSX if I compile this

#include <u.h>
#include <libc.h>

void main(void)
{
  float f = 99.99;
  exits(0);
}

with 5c/5l and then 5i it, it gives:

  undefined instruction trap pc #102c inst ed9b0100 class 92

Is floating point supported with 5i?

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[cinap_lenrek]

aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
i remember he implemented floating point on it.

might have a look there:

http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, <cinap_lenrek@gmx.de> wrote:

> aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
> i remember he implemented floating point on it.
>
> might have a look there:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e


Thanks.  What's the most sane way of downloading it to 9vx.OSX?

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[David du Colombier]

> > might have a look there:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e
>
> Thanks.  What's the most sane way of downloading it to 9vx.OSX?

mkdir /sys/src/cmd/5e
cd /sys/src/cmd/5e
for(i in 5e.c arm.c dat.h fns.h fpa.c fs.c mkfile proc.c seg.c sys.c util.c)
	hget -o $i http://plan9front.googlecode.com/hg/sys/src/cmd/5e/$i

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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Ok, linking gives:

  main: undefined: ainc in main

Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c), anybody
know where it is located?

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[David du Colombier]

> Ok, linking gives:
>
>   main: undefined: ainc in main
>
> Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c),
> anybody know where it is located?

It's defined in the libc. You can add it
to /sys/include/libc.h if you wish.

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com>wrote:

> > Ok, linking gives:
> >
> >   main: undefined: ainc in main
> >
> > Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c),
> > anybody know where it is located?
>
> It's defined in the libc. You can add it
> to /sys/include/libc.h if you wish.


If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc

it returns nothing.

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[David du Colombier]

> If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
>
> it returns nothing.

Your libc is obviously not up-do-date.

term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
atom.8: T ainc

See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libc/386/atom.s

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com>wrote:

> > If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
> >
> > it returns nothing.
>
> Your libc is obviously not up-do-date.
>
> term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
> atom.8: T ainc
>
> See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libc/386/atom.s


I have it built and it seems to be working, at least with APE built apps,
but I think it's not with non-APE due to something I'm doing.  Thanks all.


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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Comeau At9Fans]

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Anybody with an ARM Plan 9 willing to run a binary for me?  It just emits a
few lines out of output and I promise it is not a virus.

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[erik quanstrom]

On Wed May  9 10:38:21 EDT 2012, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
> i remember he implemented floating point on it.
>
> might have a look there:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e

why was it done this way rather than extending 5i?

also, *which* floating point does it emulate.  like intel,
there is a buffet of choices.

- erik

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Charles Forsyth]

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the 7500's FPA.

On 9 May 2012 17:36, erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com> wrote:

> also, *which* floating point does it emulate.

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Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Ethan Grammatikidis]

On Wed, 9 May 2012 12:36:06 -0400
erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com> wrote:

> On Wed May  9 10:38:21 EDT 2012, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> > aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
> > i remember he implemented floating point on it.
>
> why was it done this way rather than extending 5i?

my memory of the irc discussion over it is vague now, but i think 5e is
substantially different. patching 5i was considered, but i think it was
found wanting in more areas than just floating point.

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

[Charles Forsyth]

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They do different things. the ?i series is mainly intended to debug and
improve the compilers:
it emulates only so much of the architecture and system, enough to get the
compiler and libc going.

5e's a nice bit of work (except for the limitation to little-endian host).
the emulation of /proc was interesting.
5e is more useful if you're trying to debug an arm program on an Intel,
hence the interest in
emulating system calls. it's probably not as useful for compiler debugging.
when debugging the compilers it's convenient to run 5i with $ti :r and just
let it go,
rather than interacting with it by setting breakpoints etc through /proc.

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